>> ^artician:

"Jay Programs so rapidly, that he often crashes the computer."
Has 60-minutes always been this pandering. That isn't rapid "programming", it's shitty software.
Either way, good for this kid. I hope he makes amazing work in his lifetime, and doesn't end up finding some esoteric, progressive compositions being the only thing he can do after a certain point.


I think his problem is that he's still using an iBook. Someone needs to donate a MacBook and new version of Finale or Sibelius.

As to the quality of his symphonies, he's still really young. Imagine what he can do in 5 years or so.

Agreed, for the most part.

He obviously has talent, but to be a great artist one tends to need life experience (often of a darker nature) and that is something he doesn't have.

It should come with time though.

As for why we haven't seen a Mozart, etc. in hundreds of years, maybe its because the great artists of our time aren't composing classical music (which tends to cultivate the misbelief that it is somehow superior). Now, I'm a fan of classical music, but listen to While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Gimme Shelter, or All Along the Watchtower and tell me you don't feel as moved as when listening to Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, or The Marriage of Figaro.
>> ^TheFreak:

Bullshit.
Try listening to Jay Greenbergs Symphony no 5. It's horrible.
It's an unorganized cacophany. One moment it sounds every bit like an action movie score then immediately it swings the other way and you'd think you were listening to the music from a 30's cartoon. There's no rhyme or reason behind any of the sounds you hear, no progression, no building of emotion, no story being told, no subtlety or purpose...just great big sloppy swipes of an oversized lyrical paintbrush.
That 60 Minutes segment describes Jay's early and enduring interest in writing music. I believe that's about the only element of the story that's not pure hyperbole. From listening to his music you can tell that he has obviously learned a great deal at a young age about arranging orchestral music. He has knowledge. What he lacks is everything else necessary to create great music.
Boys his age do one thing with great expertise and skill....masturbate. And that's what "Blue Bird" is doing with his music...masturbating all up in your ear holes.
Jay Greenergs interest and dedication to study clasical music composition, as well as the encouragement he's received, has brought him a long way. The real shame is the uncritical feedback he's getting from the people around him. Without anyone to tell him that his music is ham fisted and clumsy there's every likelyhood that his narcisistic self appraisal will lead him to nothing.
Jay Greenberg has demonstrated an impressive ability to learn how to compose in a classical style. It remains to be seen if he can turn that technical skill into artistic achievement.

Bullshit.

Try listening to Jay Greenbergs Symphony no 5. It's horrible.

It's an unorganized cacophany. One moment it sounds every bit like an action movie score then immediately it swings the other way and you'd think you were listening to the music from a 30's cartoon. There's no rhyme or reason behind any of the sounds you hear, no progression, no building of emotion, no story being told, no subtlety or purpose...just great big sloppy swipes of an oversized lyrical paintbrush.

That 60 Minutes segment describes Jay's early and enduring interest in writing music. I believe that's about the only element of the story that's not pure hyperbole. From listening to his music you can tell that he has obviously learned a great deal at a young age about arranging orchestral music. He has knowledge. What he lacks is everything else necessary to create great music.

Boys his age do one thing with great expertise and skill....masturbate. And that's what "Blue Bird" is doing with his music...masturbating all up in your ear holes.

Jay Greenergs interest and dedication to study clasical music composition, as well as the encouragement he's received, has brought him a long way. The real shame is the uncritical feedback he's getting from the people around him. Without anyone to tell him that his music is ham fisted and clumsy there's every likelyhood that his narcisistic self appraisal will lead him to nothing.

Jay Greenberg has demonstrated an impressive ability to learn how to compose in a classical style. It remains to be seen if he can turn that technical skill into artistic achievement.

>> ^Crosswords:

Lobbyists should only be able to make their case during official recorded meetings. None of those dinner, club or trips to a Scottish golf course meetings; including staff working for the politician. Plus former staff members should not be allowed to lobby, ever. Obviously way too much temptation for corruption.


Should the same be had of a citizen writing his congressman? What would the legal difference be between a lobby and a "normal" person. If you try and legislate this, it will only be a matter of time before normal people get caught in the cross-hairs. My solution would be to roll back the responsibility of the government to regulate those things we hold dear and do it ourselves. New technology and know how is making "outsourcing" of major responsibilities no longer necessary. All to often, government officials have no real expertise on the things we want them to look after anyway, how many 60 year old technology minded Senators exist currently or ever? Which understand the intricacies of the biological world of the cell? To great the cost for such ignorant people. Best in our hands, best by our means. The creative solutions of interesting people and communities would be fair more beneficial to all than one monolithic, solution managed by fools. This has problems of its own, but is a far cry from the corruption that an overly legal, federal understanding of life holds for us...ask Russia.

"Jay Programs so rapidly, that he often crashes the computer."

Has 60-minutes always been this pandering. That isn't rapid "programming", it's shitty software.

Either way, good for this kid. I hope he makes amazing work in his lifetime, and doesn't end up finding some esoteric, progressive compositions being the only thing he can do after a certain point.

I am such a computer illiterate. I push the buttons with crossed fingers and hope for the best.

Sorry for your experience. It is all a mystery to me.

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>> ^Peroxide:

"He doesn't see the new reforms as being very effective."
"The system hasn't been cleaned up, at all."
This is all you need to know, occupy.


You might want to know this, too. I had to sit through 30 seconds of advert for one minute of video, whereupon i had to watch another 30 seconds of advert. Definitely relevant!

Heh, page refreshed by accident - another 15 seconds of advert but this time for 0 seconds of video (me skipping to where i was) and then 30 seconds of advert. Is this some sort of joke?

I ain't healing nobody! Now go judge your brothers for me!

Sincerely,

- God

>> ^shinyblurry:

Considering your two death threats against me and this comment, a pattern is starting to emerge. You clearly have some deep seated issues. You need to repent of this wickedness and ask God to heal you. Youre headed towards a fall with your faulty conscience, so you had best get right with God now, before it is too late to avoid it and you act on one of your impulses.
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.

Oh I could still kick him violently in the back of the head and feel NOTHING. I wouldn't feel anything I would just go "Oh look he's dead...whatever" and walk on.

>> ^Peroxide:

"He doesn't see the new reforms as being very effective."
"The system hasn't been cleaned up, at all."
This is all you need to know, occupy.


You might want to know this, too. I had to sit through 30 seconds of advert for one minute of video, whereupon i had to watch another 30 seconds of advert. Definitely relevant!

Heh, page refreshed by accident - another 15 seconds of advert but this time for 0 seconds of video (me skipping to where i was) and then 30 seconds of advert. Is this some sort of joke?

>> ^shinyblurry:

Considering your two death threats against me and this comment, a pattern is starting to emerge. You clearly have some deep seated issues. You need to repent of this wickedness and ask God to heal you. Youre headed towards a fall with your faulty conscience, so you had best get right with God now, before it is too late to avoid it and you act on one of your impulses.
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.

Oh I could still kick him violently in the back of the head and feel NOTHING. I wouldn't feel anything I would just go "Oh look he's dead...whatever" and walk on.



You have become a sapient caricature. Whatever your objectives are, you have neutralized your ability to achieve them here by your conduct and repetitious zealotry. You care only that your message is heard, not about the way in which it's received or how you come across.

You are actively doing damage to the image of those ideas you feel are important, and I cannot understand it. Your policies towards people are entirely ineffectual, and you will never accomplish your goals. Perhaps you don't really care.

I'm willing to listen to most people, and I think there's great joy to be had in engaging with the minds of others. But you cast yourself in such a ridiculous light that I frequently wonder if you're just a fucking troll.

I just hope that under all the fanatical drivel, there is actually a human being worth investigating. It seems decreasingly likely.

Hey Yogi. I'll say the same thing I said to @shinyblurry and @mizila.

Could you take this conversation to your personal profile pages, and out of the comment stream on my video?

There is a really interesting conversation developing on that video that is threatening to be derailed into an off-topic pissing match.

Shinyblurry, do you see what has happened here? Again, this started with a personal comment directed out of left field, and now there are two other Sifters jumping in. None of this has anything to do with Jack Abramoff.

I'm not saying don't make the comments, I am asking, shiny, that you make them on personal profile pages and not on video comment streams.

Thanks.

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>> ^shinyblurry:

Considering your two death threats against me and this comment, a pattern is starting to emerge. You clearly have some deep seated issues. You need to repent of this wickedness and ask God to heal you. Youre headed towards a fall with your faulty conscience, so you had best get right with God now, before it is too late to avoid it and you act on one of your impulses.
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.

Oh I could still kick him violently in the back of the head and feel NOTHING. I wouldn't feel anything I would just go "Oh look he's dead...whatever" and walk on.



I don't remember ever threatening you. I know that I was typing a quote from a friend one time because I am not a veteran.

You're my new favorite person. Great comment. Thanks.

In reply to this comment by dapper:
I really enjoyed this article. What interests me about some of the comments in here is this apparent need for some of us to brandish this guy as evil or whatever. I get the feeling that we often cling to these concepts when we see people doing things that we find so abhorent; and by considering them in these terms, we are able to see them as "other", as different from us; and therefore we are able to feel righteous in our judgement of them. For me who takes this article at face value, I see a guy who was obviously caught doing some ridiculously amoral or even immoral acts, but in his mind, he was doing some right things. It doesn't justify his acts, just as nothing can justify the acts of the Oakland or NYPDs in recent weeks. But it does make me reflect on the idea that perhaps too simply we create "others" out of people who hold differing views than us, and this seems to be just one step away from considering them as enemies. Certainly the consequences of his actions are ongoing and causing the pain of many, and for that, his 3 year sentence seems somewhat trivial...

What I take away from thinking about this, is that this man's story absolutely stresses the need for all of us to actively participate in our democracies,and to have in place, the systems to hold our elected representatives responsible for their decisions on our behalf. We clearly have a long way to go in all democracies across the world. I wish us well.

Howdy.

So I'll tell you what I told @shinyblurry....

I would appreciate it if you could take these personal comments to the personal profile page instead of mucking up the comment stream of my video.

Shiny, this is exactly why I asked you to refrain from making comments like you did -- the comment stream is in danger of getting derailed, and once again, it started with one of your comments.

There is a really interesting conversation going on that video. Please, I beg of you both, let it develop in peace, on topic.

In reply to this comment by mizila:
>> ^shinyblurry:
(my version of)GOD IS GREAT BLAH BLAH BURN IN (my version of) HELL SINNER BLAH BLAH


the coShinyblurry the only pattern emerging around here is a pattern of you being a self-righteous douchebag. Shouldn't you be in church right now? Go away.

>> ^shinyblurry:
(my version of)GOD IS GREAT BLAH BLAH BURN IN (my version of) HELL SINNER BLAH BLAH


Shinyblurry the only pattern emerging around here is a pattern of you being a self-righteous douchebag. Shouldn't you be in church right now? Go away.

Considering your two death threats against me and this comment, a pattern is starting to emerge. You clearly have some deep seated issues. You need to repent of this wickedness and ask God to heal you. Youre headed towards a fall with your faulty conscience, so you had best get right with God now, before it is too late to avoid it and you act on one of your impulses.

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.

Oh I could still kick him violently in the back of the head and feel NOTHING. I wouldn't feel anything I would just go "Oh look he's dead...whatever" and walk on.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.


That's a hallmark of a sociopath.