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Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.

And since he is disgraced, anything useful he could contribute to fixing the problem will be set aside. While if he wasn't disgraces, he'd still be doing it.

"He doesn't see the new reforms as being very effective."
"The system hasn't been cleaned up, at all."
This is all you need to know, occupy.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.


Oh I could still kick him violently in the back of the head and feel NOTHING. I wouldn't feel anything I would just go "Oh look he's dead...whatever" and walk on.

In a few weeks there is going to be a news report stating that he fell into a pool and didn't come back out, or was driving too fast near a very high cliff in a remote location with no witnesses.

Need Term limits and no political official or staff to be allowed to become part of the K street crowd.

I will share this with everyone I know. Thank you for posting it.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.


That's a hallmark of a sociopath.

And, that ladies and gentleman, is the closing of the loop.

And you thought Cheney was cinched by the Scooter Libby trial! Think again. Abramoff is the fall guy for a system that is inviolably corrupted from the bone.

this little "democratic experiment" of America is now over.

Insert another Revolutionary War if you wish to play again.

Considering your two death threats against me and this comment, a pattern is starting to emerge. You clearly have some deep seated issues. You need to repent of this wickedness and ask God to heal you. Youre headed towards a fall with your faulty conscience, so you had best get right with God now, before it is too late to avoid it and you act on one of your impulses.

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.

Oh I could still kick him violently in the back of the head and feel NOTHING. I wouldn't feel anything I would just go "Oh look he's dead...whatever" and walk on.

“There is luxury in self reproach. When we blame ourselves, we feel no one else has a right to blame us.”
Oscar Wilde.

This guy only served three and a half years in prison. Unbelieveable.

I really enjoyed this article. What interests me about some of the comments in here is this apparent need for some of us to brandish this guy as evil or whatever. I get the feeling that we often cling to these concepts when we see people doing things that we find so abhorent; and by considering them in these terms, we are able to see them as "other", as different from us; and therefore we are able to feel righteous in our judgement of them. For me who takes this article at face value, I see a guy who was obviously caught doing some ridiculously amoral or even immoral acts, but in his mind, he was doing some right things. It doesn't justify his acts, just as nothing can justify the acts of the Oakland or NYPDs in recent weeks. But it does make me reflect on the idea that perhaps too simply we create "others" out of people who hold differing views than us, and this seems to be just one step away from considering them as enemies. Certainly the consequences of his actions are ongoing and causing the pain of many, and for that, his 3 year sentence seems somewhat trivial...

What I take away from thinking about this, is that this man's story absolutely stresses the need for all of us to actively participate in our democracies,and to have in place, the systems to hold our elected representatives responsible for their decisions on our behalf. We clearly have a long way to go in all democracies across the world. I wish us well.

I have no problem with lobbyists, they are just humans doing a job, my problem is with the law that makes them legal.

That was extremely interesting.

As much as I empathize with those that despise him and wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire, watching this makes me think that he has some valuable insight into the system that we need to take note of whether or not you believe that deep down he has reformed.

Sort of like the hackers that end up becoming IT security advisers. We need to listen to what he says, understand the problems that he is pointing out, and plug the goddamn holes.

>> ^shinyblurry:
(my version of)GOD IS GREAT BLAH BLAH BURN IN (my version of) HELL SINNER BLAH BLAH


Shinyblurry the only pattern emerging around here is a pattern of you being a self-righteous douchebag. Shouldn't you be in church right now? Go away.

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>> ^shinyblurry:

Considering your two death threats against me and this comment, a pattern is starting to emerge. You clearly have some deep seated issues. You need to repent of this wickedness and ask God to heal you. Youre headed towards a fall with your faulty conscience, so you had best get right with God now, before it is too late to avoid it and you act on one of your impulses.
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.

Oh I could still kick him violently in the back of the head and feel NOTHING. I wouldn't feel anything I would just go "Oh look he's dead...whatever" and walk on.



You have become a sapient caricature. Whatever your objectives are, you have neutralized your ability to achieve them here by your conduct and repetitious zealotry. You care only that your message is heard, not about the way in which it's received or how you come across.

You are actively doing damage to the image of those ideas you feel are important, and I cannot understand it. Your policies towards people are entirely ineffectual, and you will never accomplish your goals. Perhaps you don't really care.

I'm willing to listen to most people, and I think there's great joy to be had in engaging with the minds of others. But you cast yourself in such a ridiculous light that I frequently wonder if you're just a fucking troll.

I just hope that under all the fanatical drivel, there is actually a human being worth investigating. It seems decreasingly likely.

I liked the part of the video where the guy did the thing. Topical!

I have been trying to save this comment stream from @shinyblurry's comment. I have asked shiny to make comments like this in the future on personal profile pages, and not muck up and derail conversations on a video's comment stream.

This thing is starting to snowball -- three Sifters have now taken him to task on this comment stream.

I beg of you, please make your comments on his personal profile page. None of this has to do with Jack Abramoff. There are some really incisive, intelligent and passionate comments being made about this video. I hope that any further comments made here are about the video.

I urge anyone who has a problem with shinyblurry to take it to his personal profile page.

Thanks.

>> ^Peroxide:

"He doesn't see the new reforms as being very effective."
"The system hasn't been cleaned up, at all."
This is all you need to know, occupy.


You might want to know this, too. I had to sit through 30 seconds of advert for one minute of video, whereupon i had to watch another 30 seconds of advert. Definitely relevant!

Heh, page refreshed by accident - another 15 seconds of advert but this time for 0 seconds of video (me skipping to where i was) and then 30 seconds of advert. Is this some sort of joke?

Edit: Sorry, off topic.

I ain't healing nobody! Now go judge your brothers for me!

Sincerely,

- God

>> ^shinyblurry:

Considering your two death threats against me and this comment, a pattern is starting to emerge. You clearly have some deep seated issues. You need to repent of this wickedness and ask God to heal you. Youre headed towards a fall with your faulty conscience, so you had best get right with God now, before it is too late to avoid it and you act on one of your impulses.
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Wow, I can see what they are talking about...he is really charismatic. Him talking about all the evil he did, and for some reason, it was hard to hate him...amazing.

Oh I could still kick him violently in the back of the head and feel NOTHING. I wouldn't feel anything I would just go "Oh look he's dead...whatever" and walk on.

don't feed the troll? if it wasn't obvious before, it is now.

Lobbyists should only be able to make their case during official recorded meetings. None of those dinner, club or trips to a Scottish golf course meetings; including staff working for the politician. Plus former staff members should not be allowed to lobby, ever. Obviously way too much temptation for corruption.

>> ^Crosswords:

Lobbyists should only be able to make their case during official recorded meetings. None of those dinner, club or trips to a Scottish golf course meetings; including staff working for the politician. Plus former staff members should not be allowed to lobby, ever. Obviously way too much temptation for corruption.


Should the same be had of a citizen writing his congressman? What would the legal difference be between a lobby and a "normal" person. If you try and legislate this, it will only be a matter of time before normal people get caught in the cross-hairs. My solution would be to roll back the responsibility of the government to regulate those things we hold dear and do it ourselves. New technology and know how is making "outsourcing" of major responsibilities no longer necessary. All to often, government officials have no real expertise on the things we want them to look after anyway, how many 60 year old technology minded Senators exist currently or ever? Which understand the intricacies of the biological world of the cell? To great the cost for such ignorant people. Best in our hands, best by our means. The creative solutions of interesting people and communities would be fair more beneficial to all than one monolithic, solution managed by fools. This has problems of its own, but is a far cry from the corruption that an overly legal, federal understanding of life holds for us...ask Russia.

In other startling news - human beings require the respiration of oxygen for survival, and sunlight powers photosynthesis! The system is corrupt? Who knew?!? :eyeroll:

Heey, if you remove "Abram" everything becomes funnier.