blackjackshellac says...

Good to see the bloody Daily Mail continue it's program of fear, uncertainty and doubt. I wouldn't trust this publication with any medical advice *ever*, and you would be wise to do the same. Do not use the DM as y our only source of medical advice, because it will certainly be hazardous to your health. That is a guarantee.

imstellar28 says...

>> ^blackjackshellac:
I wouldn't trust this publication with any medical advice ever


Internet tip for beginners: google before you speak.
http://www.google.com/search?q=swine+flu+nerve+disease
http://www.google.com/search?q=swine+flu+guillain+barre

www.telegraph.co.uk
uk.news.yahoo.com
articles.latimes.com
www.cdc.gov
www.stat.berkeley.edu

Any of those wacky publications (who are reporting the same story) trusted enough for you?

imstellar28 says...

For the record, I know for a FACT this story is false, because I happen to personally know a VIROLOGIST who says this is impossible!

>> ^Doc_M:
"As a virologist who knows people in the CDC, people who find vaccine targets, people who make vaccines, and just about every other part of the scientific process of virus study, I'll tell you that this is beyond irresponsible. This is downright delusional paranoia and could be seriously harmful to public thought on a topic so important as this. Heck, right now I'm at an international meeting of virologists and have been for almost a week. Just yesterday, I spent an hour chatting with a CDC virologist.

Vaccines are most certainly never laced with other dangerously altered viruses. That's just nonsense."


See? Case closed.

imstellar28 says...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak

"The 1976 swine flu outbreak, also known as the swine flu fiasco, or the swine flu debacle, was a strain of H1N1 influenza virus that appeared in 1976. Infections were only detected from January 19 to February 9, and were not found outside Fort Dix.[1] The outbreak is most remembered for the mass immunization that it prompted in the United States. The strain itself killed one person and hospitalized 13. However, side-effects from the vaccine caused 25 deaths."


"Those who don't know history are destined ... to die from swine flu vaccines"
-Edmund Burke

Diogenes says...

caution is rarely a bad thing, but media sensationalism in this day and age is becoming tiresome...

that said, i would have worded the summary differently, and imho more accurately:

A warning that the new swine flu jab is [may also be] linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter. A different, though similar, swine flu vaccine was linked to the nerve disease GBS in the swine flu epidemic of 1976.

you see, the change in wording is very small, yet changes the context quite a bit

as well, the caution (in the uncorrected and sensationalist version) would have the reader assume that 1) modern medicine has learned nothing about swine flu vaccines and GBS in the intervening 33 years, and 2) whereas the first vaccine may have had deadly side-affects through vaccination ignorance, that this new vaccine is being administered with wanton disregard for the public's safety in light of problems with the similar vaccine administered 33 years previously (i.e. we're just the government's guinea pigs)

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