Real History of the Boston Tea Party

4/9/2010
choggiesays...

You know what NetRuiner? By posting this bullshit from the editorializing first to-go dweeb like Cenk, I must suffer adds on the YT ticker, that was spent to sell me the next governor and lieutenant governor of Texas, because you think this crack-smear has something to tell the Nation, in your insulated bubble of WTF, LOL, and, MY COUNTRY CAN AND WILL WITH HOPE FLAVORED, WE KNOW YOU KNOW THE REAL STORY, HORSESHIT..no better than the poorly rendered schoolbook you remember from grade school-Not today, Q-tips.

Fuck the Vote.

TYT has sucked balls from their inception....a buncha wanna be wankers who don't know how well yet the cock they can blow beter than housewives with prescriptions..

Corporations have a new lure..........TYT and their popularity on the tubes, dumb asses.

For crissakess, burn your televisions and deny yourselves computers if you can't get the message-Your opinions are shit!

Oh and fuck the tone and timbre of this post, the leading tags, the title, everything.....sorry to have had the young turks spell your dysfunction out for you all....you 5 or so voters-

choggiesays...

Oh and, by the way....I could give a fuck what they taught me in Texas grade, middle, and high schools concerning the Boston Tea Party.... never was one to study-Fuck the new history lesson blender-boy, Cenk, yer suit needs pressing, the hookahs' yer only hope-stop trying to teach people conditioned for the realm of the unteachable.

Down with government, means down with corporations miens down with unreasonable entities complicating the world, which means, complicit monkeys make the world a far worse place to traverse, which may mean, a cult of the self....Perhaps look not to TYT for a way to express the selfless self, dude.

Morganthsays...

No. This video is misinformed at best and deceitful at worst. Now the Young Turks are trying to interpret history how they want to. History should not be read in light of current political feelings, by either side. It needs to be read as it happened.

When tea became popular in the colonies in the early 18th century, British Parliament passed a law in 1721 saying that the colonies had to import their tea only from Great Britain. The East India company never sold to the colonies; it sold wholesale auction in Britain which was then later imported by various merchant middlemen.

Since the British were taxing the East India company about 25% for their tea, plus additional taxes on tea for consumption, and the Dutch weren't taxing their companies any, a huge pastime in both England and the colonies was buying smuggled Dutch tea at much cheaper prices. The East India company was losing big money.

In 1767 Parliament passed the Indemnity Act to help the East India company compete with smugglers. This lowered the tax on tea consumed in Great Britain and gave the company a refund of the 25% duty of tea that was re-exported to the colonies. Of course, this meant a loss of revenue for Parliament, so they also passed the Townshend Revenue Act of 1767, which levied new taxes, including one on tea, on the colonies.

Don't forget that the British Empire was in massive debt following the Seven Year's War (1756-1763). You have the 1765 Stamp Act, which was a tax just on the colonies requiring most things on printed paper to use taxed or "stamped" paper purchased at a premium from Britian. You also have the Sugar Act of 1764, which was, again, a tax imposed only on the colonies. Then the Revenue Act of 1766. Add all of this on top of the fact that the colonies were in a big economic turmoil following the war, and that each of these added fuel to the fire of the "no taxation without representation" debate and you get a bunch of pissed off colonists, probably for a whole host of reasons.

The colonies were viewed as nothing more than a source of revenue for the 'grand' ideas of the British Empire.

NetRunnersays...

@Morganth, I agree that Cenk's reading of history is intentionally focusing on a single aspect of the events in order to draw an ironic conclusion, but what he's saying has factual basis.

His big mistake is to say that it was not about tax increases, when that was definitely the final straw that led to the Tea Party. However, I do think it's fair to say that a large part of the resentment about taxes in the colonies was that tax policy was being used to keep the colonies dependent on Britain for imports, and that the selective tax cut given to the East India company was as galling as the Townshend Acts were.

Based on the arc of history that followed, I think it's fair to say that a lot of the resentment about taxes wasn't about taxes per se, but about their disenfranchisement within the British government -- the second part of that slogan "no taxation without representation".

This is the part where I think the modern day "Tea Party" movement really falls flat on its face. It's got plenty of representation, it just no longer holds the majority in Congress, and they're being a bunch of cry babies about it.

MrFisksays...

"Public relations activities were a major part of the American Revolution. Loyalist groups vehemently opposed independence, and the great majority of people were indifferent to the cause. The patriots used a wide variety of public relations techniques to gain public support for the war. The Boston Tea Party of 1773 was a staged event that, like the sensationalized reports of the Boston Massacre, was designed to garner publicity and crystallize public opinion. The patriots used easily recognizable symbols, such as the liberty tree flag, and emotion-arousing slogans, such as "Taxation without representation is tyranny," to get their points across."
Mass Media in a Changing World by George Rodman

kymbossays...

The only thing I like about TYT is the topics. Every now and then they appeal to me by introducing an interesting topic to discuss, then they give it rubbish treatment and I am reminded of how crap they are. They are analytical junk food.

chilaxesays...

>> ^kymbos:

The only thing I like about TYT is the topics. Every now and then they appeal to me by introducing an interesting topic to discuss, then they give it rubbish treatment and I am reminded of how crap they are. They are analytical junk food.


Cenk is a principled person, so I'm sure he'll post a follow-up video taking responsibility for posting misinformation. (j/k! )

pmkierstsays...

Ya know, I consider myself a pretty liberal, left fella, but TYT really peeves me off. They discredit good thought. This kinda of crap is just silly; protesting tax cuts. Idiotic. Of course they were not protesting peoples tax cuts, they were protesting that *they* didn't have the cuts. Pretty damn big difference. This video is misleading and no better the Sarah Palin's twisted view of history and facts.

NetRunnersays...

>> ^pmkierst:

Of course they were not protesting peoples tax cuts, they were protesting that they didn't have the cuts. Pretty damn big difference.


Most people are mad at Cenk because they think he's being misleading by saying what you're saying.

You seem to be mad at Cenk because he's saying exactly what you're saying.

pmkierstsays...

Heh, no. They were upset at a tax inequality. He is trying to make it sound like it was about tax cuts, but the outcome would have likely been the same if they were simply given a tax increase, since it was the inequality that counted, not the fact that there were cuts. He is trying to "spin it back" as it were. Sure the Tea party movement has slightly (very) misappropriated the term, but it is a minor thing, particularly in a sea of idiocity that they spew that can be soundly and thoroughly stomped on, and the manner he does it is more an attempt to be clever the honest.

entr0pysays...

It seems like framing Indians for the act should ruin it as a symbol that anyone could be proud of. I could understand wearing masks. But trying to pin it on the natives was a dick move. If they hadn't done such a shit job of dressing as Indians, I wonder if they ever would have taken responsibility for it.

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