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We clearly have a War addiction in addition to our oil dependency.

Impeachable offense? Of course. Anything that gets enough votes is an impeachable offense, though I don't expect anything to come of it other than words (as always).

I'm happy that we're on the side with much international support rather than just invading unilaterally, but I would like to see more congressional involvement in decisions regarding armed conflict.

Just another war for oil. I love how these political junkheads always say major combat operations will last a week in order to try curb early criticism. It's a %$#@ing lie. Obama is just another tool in the server room of an evil corporate empire.

Give me a fucking break.

If anything we should be pissed that he continued the bullshit in Iraq and Afghanistan. Focusing on Libya is just distracting from MAJOR, LONG TERM problems.

The UN, including America, is in Libya to prevent civilians from being murdered for protesting their government. Maybe someday someone will show that we shouldn't have done it but this video is pathetic journalism that distracts from larger and more pressing issues.

It's fucking bullshit.

Upvote to illuminate ignorance.

>> ^Ryjkyj:

Give me a fucking break.
If anything we should be pissed that he continued the bullshit in Iraq and Afghanistan. Focusing on Libya is just distracting from MAJOR, LONG TERM problems.
The UN, including America, is in Libya to prevent civilians from being murdered for protesting their government. Maybe someday someone will show that we shouldn't have done it but this video is pathetic journalism that distracts from larger and more pressing issues.
It's fucking bullshit.
Upvote to illuminate ignorance.


You mean like Iraq? We didn't already learn that lesson? I don't see how the UN removes that previous lesson...to error in crowds don't make it any less an error. Are you saying that whenever a country kills its citizens, it should be bombed? If so, then you approve of Iraq.

Edit, as an addendum, I am not sure this is an impeachable offence.

""The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may only be impeached and removed for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors"." Being that the context of the War Powers Act is vague and congress hasn't repealed it, I don't see any real justification for the charge of treason or high crimes, just playing by the rules of poorly formed laws.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

>> ^Ryjkyj:
Give me a fucking break.
If anything we should be pissed that he continued the bullshit in Iraq and Afghanistan. Focusing on Libya is just distracting from MAJOR, LONG TERM problems.
The UN, including America, is in Libya to prevent civilians from being murdered for protesting their government. Maybe someday someone will show that we shouldn't have done it but this video is pathetic journalism that distracts from larger and more pressing issues.
It's fucking bullshit.
Upvote to illuminate ignorance.

You mean like Iraq? We didn't already learn that lesson? I don't see how the UN removes that previous lesson...to error in crowds don't make it any less an error. Are you saying that whenever a country kills its citizens, it should be bombed? If so, then you approve of Iraq.
Edit, as an addendum, I am not sure this is an impeachable offence.
""The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may only be impeached and removed for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors"." Being that the context of the War Powers Act is vague and congress hasn't repealed it, I don't see any real justification for the charge of treason or high crimes, just playing by the rules of poorly formed laws.


Hey Geesuss,

Next time, when you're going to reply to one of my comments, try reading it first. Christ on a shitwagon, you even quoted me as saying that the Libya thing is just distracting from the major, long term problem in Iraq. Why am I even repeating myself?.

>> ^Ryjkyj:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
>> ^Ryjkyj:
Give me a fucking break.
If anything we should be pissed that he continued the bullshit in Iraq and Afghanistan. Focusing on Libya is just distracting from MAJOR, LONG TERM problems.
The UN, including America, is in Libya to prevent civilians from being murdered for protesting their government. Maybe someday someone will show that we shouldn't have done it but this video is pathetic journalism that distracts from larger and more pressing issues.
It's fucking bullshit.
Upvote to illuminate ignorance.

You mean like Iraq? We didn't already learn that lesson? I don't see how the UN removes that previous lesson...to error in crowds don't make it any less an error. Are you saying that whenever a country kills its citizens, it should be bombed? If so, then you approve of Iraq.
Edit, as an addendum, I am not sure this is an impeachable offence.
""The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may only be impeached and removed for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors"." Being that the context of the War Powers Act is vague and congress hasn't repealed it, I don't see any real justification for the charge of treason or high crimes, just playing by the rules of poorly formed laws.

Hey Geesuss,
Next time, when you're going to reply to one of my comments, try reading it first. Christ on a shitwagon, you even quoted me as saying that the Libya thing is just distracting from the major, long term problem in Iraq. Why am I even repeating myself?.

I did, but it seemed like you said the reason we shouldn't care about Libya is because of Iraq. And then turned around and said this isn't like Iraq, even though it is clearly like Iraq. In other words, you were mad because this is just like Iraq, and because it isn't like Iraq.

>> ^Ryjkyj:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
>> ^Ryjkyj:
Give me a fucking break.
If anything we should be pissed that he continued the bullshit in Iraq and Afghanistan. Focusing on Libya is just distracting from MAJOR, LONG TERM problems.
The UN, including America, is in Libya to prevent civilians from being murdered for protesting their government. Maybe someday someone will show that we shouldn't have done it but this video is pathetic journalism that distracts from larger and more pressing issues.
It's fucking bullshit.
Upvote to illuminate ignorance.

You mean like Iraq? We didn't already learn that lesson? I don't see how the UN removes that previous lesson...to error in crowds don't make it any less an error. Are you saying that whenever a country kills its citizens, it should be bombed? If so, then you approve of Iraq.
Edit, as an addendum, I am not sure this is an impeachable offence.
""The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may only be impeached and removed for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors"." Being that the context of the War Powers Act is vague and congress hasn't repealed it, I don't see any real justification for the charge of treason or high crimes, just playing by the rules of poorly formed laws.

Hey Geesuss,
Next time, when you're going to reply to one of my comments, try reading it first. Christ on a shitwagon, you even quoted me as saying that the Libya thing is just distracting from the major, long term problem in Iraq. Why am I even repeating myself?.

Impeachable offense is a high crime or misdemeanor.

War Powers Act of 1973 allows the President to use US military power for up to 90 days without a declaration of war or mandate by Congress.

This is not an impeachable offense. It's perfectly legal as laws stand. Even if you argue the War Powers Act is unconstitutional, you can't impeach a President for doing what's legal now.

Disagreeing with his decision to intervene in Libya is fine. That's a part of a healthy democracy - to question and dissent. A lot of people however need to understand an offense is NOT impeachable just because they disagree with it. I thought getting involved in Iraq was a bad idea, but that's not an impeachable offense.

I thought Bill Clinton having an affair with an intern was pretty horrible, but it's also NOT an impeachable offense. His lying about it under oath, which I honestly didn't really care about, IS impeachable because it is perjury.

The Bush administration could have been impeached for outing a CIA operative, which is treason.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

I did, but it seemed like you said the reason we shouldn't care about Libya is because of Iraq. And then turned around and said this isn't like Iraq, even though it is clearly like Iraq. In other words, you were mad because this is just like Iraq, and because it isn't like Iraq.



I'm sorry, but equating the current situation in Libya with the almost-decade-long debacle in Iraq is completely retarded. In no way did I say the two were alike. In no way at all did I even imply that the two were alike in any way. You said that. I didn't.

Iraq was brought about by post 9/11 crazy-fervor. Donald Rumsfeld flat out lied to America by saying that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. The administration did everything they could to imply that Iraq was even somehow responsible for the World Trade Center attack and the vast majority of this country bought into it. Even supported it while somehow managing to feign complete ignorance of the whole Saudi Arabia issue. Remember the coalition of the willing? England and Poland and a long list of tiny countries with no military power whatsoever? How about the fact that there have been massive amounts of troops stationed in Iraq since the very beginning? Or that our then president Bush was informed, by God, via revelation that it was time to attack Iraq?

Meanwhile, this year in Libya, in a time of protests all over the world, we have reputable sources (not government investigators) reporting that not only are people in Libya protesting and trying to overthrow the government (a movement which never got off the ground during Saddam's regime) but that the dictator of the country is encouraging anyone on his side to kill any civilians who disagree with him. Now remember, this wasn't a secret plan carried out by word of mouth, it was a major news broadcast. And you have a problem with the fact that the president wanted to do something about it? I'd think that standing up for the basic human right to not be killed for your opinion would be seen as meritorious. Unlike the last president who needed a lame excuse.

As yet, there are no troops on the ground. The motive is not some concocted story. No one is even arguing over the motive for going in. It's been very clearly established. The US isn't even doing the largest portion of the work. Our partners include actual countries (no offense to Mauritania and the glorious country of Pitcairn Island) who are taking part in the assault as well.

Maybe this too will be proven to be a lie but the fact is people's lives are allegedly in danger NOW. And it's not like we're invading the country any time soon. We're not even trying to strike directly at troops. Sorry, but it seems like complete ignorance to me to claim that these to events are similar in any way. It seems like people are just looking for a way to blame the current president for the state of the world.

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