Murderer Patricia Krenwinkel's "Life After Manson"

Vimeo: Forty-five years ago, Patricia Krenwinkel killed for Charles Manson. Now she provides an emotional account of her life from prison.

Produced by: Olivia Klaus
newtboysays...

I'm often confused as to why Manson gets SUCH a bad rep. Don't get me wrong, he was (is) crazy and evil, but from all I've read on him, he never actually killed anyone, he just told other people to do it and they did. While that's bad, if that's enough to get one put in jail for life, why are most Teabaggers not in prison, I've repeatedly heard them advocate killing Obama, cops, feds, and 'liberals', and some of them have gone ahead and done it (recall the two morons months back that killed 2 cops then themselves....FUR FREEDOM!). Doesn't that make anyone that advocated it just as bad as Manson? If not, why not?

bobknight33says...

Teabaggers are crazy???

Where were you during the Bush Presidency when you fuck heads from the left were calling out for Bush to be killed?

What a short memory.

newtboysaid:

I'm often confused as to why Manson gets SUCH a bad rep. Don't get me wrong, he was (is) crazy and evil, but from all I've read on him, he never actually killed anyone, he just told other people to do it and they did. While that's bad, if that's enough to get one put in jail for life, why are most Teabaggers not in prison, I've repeatedly heard them advocate killing Obama, cops, feds, and 'liberals', and some of them have gone ahead and done it (recall the two morons months back that killed 2 cops then themselves....FUR FREEDOM!). Doesn't that make anyone that advocated it just as bad as Manson? If not, why not?

Trancecoachsays...

@newtboy If you've heard "most Teabaggers" advocating such things, why haven't you reported them to the "authorities" for conspiring to commit a crime?

Leaving lies and absurdities aside, "advocating" something is legally different from specifically inciting someone to commit a crime, knowing that they will in fact go through with it. I guess Manson could've claimed that he was joking or something, but the court didn't think so any more that they would think that Bin Laden and the other 9-11 "masterminds" were just "advocating" without expecting anything to happen. Manson was charged with conspiracy to commit murder, not with actually murdering anyone. "Most" Teabaggers aren't conspiring to kill anyone.
Like the head of a criminal organization "conspiring"* or ordering a subordinate to go take someone out, a lot depends on the relationship between the instigator and the one who does the deed -- which is not the same as "advocating" generally or to random people to do some criminal activity in the abstract. So, yeah.. why, indeed, would they get such a "bad rep?"
As for Manson getting a "bad rep?"
It's a mystery dude, a total mystery.


*The charge does not require actually committing any crime (other than conspiring) of going through with it. That's why law enforcement likes entrapment so much: because they can make arrests by instigating people to plot a crime. It's like hiring an undercover cop pretending to be a prostitute. No actual crime was committed, but the intention to commit a crime itself is considered a crime. But, to be sure, there's some degree of "mind reading" involved in the charge of conspiracy, as the law implies the assumption of intent. The charge, then, lends itself to false accusations (and convictions) too. (Apparently social media is inundated with agents trying to get people to agree to crimes so that they can get arrested and prosecuted for conspiring. Of course, nobody trolls videosift for legal advice.)

newtboyjokingly says...

Well, for one, I'm not a leftist, as I've explained to you clearly and recently. I'm an old school Republican, not a crazed corporatist anti-government nutbag Republican, not a Democrat.
Secondly, I never once heard a leftist calling for Bush to be killed, only removed from office. If you heard people calling for murder, why didn't YOU report them? I've certainly heard Teabaggers publicly call for the murder of the president, on Television mostly.
You can't have a memory, short or otherwise, of things that never happened. (well, I can't)

bobknight33said:

Teabaggers are crazy???

Where were you during the Bush Presidency when you fuck heads from the left were calling out for Bush to be killed?

What a short memory.

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