I almost had to vote this up for the Chazz Weaver section. http://chazzweaver.com/site/projects/down-size-me/

i like how they said a McDonald salad is healthy

Remind me to promote this.

This short documentary does a good job of covering all different angles.

I am personally against the fast food industry altogether for many other reasons including factory farming, and resource waste, but this video manages to take every side of the spectrum and collaborates it well. The video tries looks at the government policy, the scientific argument (or what seemed like it. Keep in mind Morgan Spurlock's work wasn't perfectly scientific either), as well as its impact everyday neighborhoods. It's good journalistic work.

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Gotta love a good old attempt at the nanny state...

It's not a ban, there's just no chance of getting your permit approved...

Until the government stops injecting huge amount of subsidies into the wheat/corn/soy industries, it's simply not a fair fight, regular restaurants don't stand a chance due to pretty much everyone being price conscious.

Im shocked they don't address the over concentration of coffee shops. I mean.....it's become a running joke about how Starbucks sets up shop across the street from Starbucks.

But in general I don't agree with this. I'd like to have places that served food that was good for you, but places that are known for that typically have really disgusting food imo that costs a whole helluva lot.

Im definitely not a healthy guy, but I don't feel that denying permits to food joints would make me healthier. It'd just mean that when I wanted XYZ's food, I'd have to drive further to get it...and probably wait longer. Guess it'd depend on how far and how long you'd have to wait.

If they were concerned with health, they'd be making it more affordable, convenient and entertaining to do physical activities. Local government to me has a sports complex you can get in pretty cheap....if you live within the city limits...if you don't they charge out the nose. To the very same people who share a lot of emergency services, police services, school levies, but aren't within the city limits. Read about a health club where they set the place up to where their exercise equipment generated power the place ran off of, and they sold excess back to the power company. They have TVs and stuff, people can watch TV or watch their power generation numbers. And if they generate enough power consistently, they get in for free. I thought that was an awesome idea, you go for free......and you go more often to keep your numbers up. Plus it's just a cool idea that your sweat is going toward something beyond just the workout.

Why doesn't the government just ban everything I don't like?

While I understand what the city trying to do, I don't like the way they are doing it.

That said, this was a horrible video. Comparing a quarter pounder to a claim jumper meal? Really?

The suggestion that this will somehow hurt the small-business guy? He should be overjoyed that he doesn't have any more competition. They're not taking anything away from him or devaluing his hard work.

And the Douche from reason.com... How does limiting new fast food restaurants *reduce* choice? It doesn't. It keeps the amount of choices THE SAME, unless someone puts in a regular restaurant, in which case it increases. And somehow he turns that into "he's punishing the people who do business in South LA"... How again? How is there ANY punishment going on? Are there extra taxes? Extra costs? Extra paperwork? Some sort of punishment?

When it comes down to it, these are their elected officials. Unless you live in South LA, this isn't our business. They talk about "let people make choices'... well, the people chose to elect these officials who are setting the restrictions. Doesn't that count?

It's not a ban. It's "forcing choice".

If California banned plastic surgery then people would eat healthier. Or move.

This is just a misguided attack on a symptom of the disease called ignorance. This problem is not limited to inner-cities at all. It's everywhere.

The reason fast food places are popular is because people don't value their health as much as they value a tasty meal. It's as simple as that. And the only way to get people to value their health more is to get into the complex details of what happens to you when you eat certain foods over long periods of time. Especially when combined with your activity level.

Maybe it's good that this is bringing awareness, but they really need to be taxing prepared foods (as opposed to whole foods from grocery stores) and spending the money on education. Much the same as taxing cigarettes to promote anti-smoking campaigns, though food choice is a more complex issue. This is a problem that will take generations to turn around.

And yes, the farming subsidies are not helping the matter.

In a free society, the consumer decides who stays and who goes.

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While I understand what the city trying to do, I don't like the way they are doing it.
That said, this was a horrible video. Comparing a quarter pounder to a claim jumper meal? Really?
The suggestion that this will somehow hurt the small-business guy? He should be overjoyed that he doesn't have any more competition. They're not taking anything away from him or devaluing his hard work.
And the Douche from reason.com... How does limiting new fast food restaurants reduce choice? It doesn't. It keeps the amount of choices THE SAME, unless someone puts in a regular restaurant, in which case it increases. And somehow he turns that into "he's punishing the people who do business in South LA"... How again? How is there ANY punishment going on? Are there extra taxes? Extra costs? Extra paperwork? Some sort of punishment?
When it comes down to it, these are their elected officials. Unless you live in South LA, this isn't our business. They talk about "let people make choices'... well, the people chose to elect these officials who are setting the restrictions. Doesn't that count?


He should be overjoyed? Really? Well they're stopping that guy opening another premises and employing more people. Furthermore he's operating in an environment that is becoming actively hostile to his business and will undoubtedly get worse if this is the attitude of local government.

I'm afraid elected officials can get things wrong. There are so many holes you can poke in this and many have been listed in the video. Simply banning/restricting/eliminating business you take a moral objection to seems profoundly shortsighted and counter-productive to me.

Who says that small business man can't expand? They banned restaurants that specialized in pre-cooked meals. They very specifically showed them cooking the hamburgers on-premise... I highly doubt his business classifies as one of those which are banned.

Even so, it goes in front of committee... case by case...

I think un-healthy lifestyles are way more to do with exercise than what you eat, I mean obviously diet contributes to unseen damage to organs etc, and if you still eat more than you exercise off, you're going to gain weight, but generally people do hardly any exercise at all and have terrible discipline. Sitting down all day, driving to shops down the road when they can walk, preferring to just watch sports instead of participating in sports.

So really the government should ban excessive sitting down, unnecessary short distance travel and force everyone to do at least an hour of exercise a day if they want to be a good nanny-state.