Brilliantly subversive.

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Beautiful idea, thanks Trancecoach.

But, putting asphalt roofing shingles in would be a bad idea. It's possible--and since big business owns judges, probable--that someone could get charged with a felony. Something along the lines of using the federal mail to sabotage the mail sorting machines that are used on all of those return envelopes (they may even use this tactic against wood shims). Tampering with the USPS mail is a serious crime.

Now some brave soul may be okay with Civil Disobedience that might have such consequences--but they should be aware of the potential consequences first.

Huge props to getting clean cut and well dressed instead of the stereotypical stoner-treehugger-hippie that seems to make videos like this usually.

Used to do this all the time...

... with pennies. No really. Throw as much junk as you can in there, nuts, bolts. Why has it taken this country so long to catch up with what was so obviously the right course of action for my friends and I in the 80s???

What does dress and appearance have to do with anything? It is all superficial in the end.


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Huge props to getting clean cut and well dressed instead of the stereotypical stoner-treehugger-hippie that seems to make videos like this usually.

>> ^shagen454:

What does dress and appearance have to do with anything? It is all superficial in the end.

>> ^Payback:
Huge props to getting clean cut and well dressed instead of the stereotypical stoner-treehugger-hippie that seems to make videos like this usually.



some people place alot more emphasis on appearance than content

>> ^shagen454:

What does dress and appearance have to do with anything? It is all superficial in the end.

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Huge props to getting clean cut and well dressed instead of the stereotypical stoner-treehugger-hippie that seems to make videos like this usually.



Superficial? First impressions are hugely important. You look like a slob, people will dismiss you as one before you even utter a word. It's not superficial, it's human nature. The way he has presented himself communicates his belief what he is saying is important. The Internet isn't text-based anymore. Presentation is everything.

Yeah, yeah. I know what you are saying, if I have to go to an interview I dress up to meet their silly superficial first impression expectation. But, that is just another problem with this country and more specifically the corporate culture of blandness and conformity.

If I go see a show I dont judge anyone on how they look. If someone looks good... then all the better. But, I would never point out ... oh man, I am so happy that this band arent wearing skinny fit jeans. Im super happy they have khakis on because it just makes all of the difference in my mind. I dont give a fuck. If the music, film, play, novel, zine, message or whatever it is is interesting that is all that is important.

I know that sounds like something an ugly person would say, but my name is SHAGEN for a reason, haha.



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Superficial? First impressions are hugely important. You look like a slob, people will dismiss you as one before you even utter a word. It's not superficial, it's human nature. The way he has presented himself communicates his belief what he is saying is important. The Internet isn't text-based anymore. Presentation is everything.

Warning, party pooping.

The mail will never reach any employee of a bank, let alone a banker. It goes to a data collection warehouse.

People with already crappy jobs working for a sub contractor who do nothing but open envelopes all day and sort their contents will be the ones who will have to bin all your wooden shivs and messages.

On top of that, your local (probably unionised) mailman will have to lug around this extra mail on his/her collection round.

Nice sentiment, but poor in execution

Also, right now I don't see an effective end goal in trying to increase the banks' costs. We pay all their costs anyway, through charges or bailouts.

You're partly right, those letters will never get to a bank employee, but as an employee of one of those companies that opens the letters for several banks, I can tell you that at least with us, we're obligated to capture any and all correspondence customers send in to us and provide it to the banks with the rest of the data. So the wood shims and roofing tiles will just piss off the wrong people, but any actual message you put in there will get to the bank, and a sudden spike in correspondence volume will get noticed.

I also disagree about raising bank costs being fruitless. If banks start charging people a monthly fee while paying 0% interest, most people will just pull their money out and bank somewhere else. Hopefully they'll go to a local bank or credit union instead, but they could always just store piles of cash in a safe at home. No business can insulate itself from increases in input costs by simply raising the price they ask customers to pay -- doing that loses you sales, and winds up costing you money.

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Warning, party pooping.
The mail will never reach any employee of a bank, let alone a banker. It goes to a data collection warehouse.
People with already crappy jobs working for a sub contractor who do nothing but open envelopes all day and sort their contents will be the ones who will have to bin all your wooden shivs and messages.
On top of that, your local (probably unionised) mailman will have to lug around this extra mail on his/her collection round.
Nice sentiment, but poor in execution
Also, right now I don't see an effective end goal in trying to increase the banks' costs. We pay all their costs anyway, through charges or bailouts.

Anything we send through the US Mail is money spent ON the US Mail. Remember, the money owed on postage is only paid upon use of the envelope.

Also those crappy workers who have to open the envelope also gotta have work. They may not care, but if the "signal to noise" on returned mail gets too high, the message will be sent up the chain anyway.

No matter what, I see this as a win. If you think it's a waste of time for the intended result, I still see two different organizations who literally benefit from the action -- a roundabout economy boost.>> ^L0cky:

On top of that, your local (probably unionised) mailman will have to lug around this extra mail on his/her collection round.

>> ^shagen454:

Yeah, yeah. I know what you are saying, if I have to go to an interview I dress up to meet their silly superficial first impression expectation. But, that is just another problem with this country and more specifically the corporate culture of blandness and conformity.
If I go see a show I dont judge anyone on how they look. If someone looks good... then all the better. But, I would never point out ... oh man, I am so happy that this band arent wearing skinny fit jeans. Im super happy they have khakis on because it just makes all of the difference in my mind. I dont give a fuck. If the music, film, play, novel, zine, message or whatever it is is interesting that is all that is important.
I know that sounds like something an ugly person would say, but my name is SHAGEN for a reason, haha.

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Superficial? First impressions are hugely important. You look like a slob, people will dismiss you as one before you even utter a word. It's not superficial, it's human nature. The way he has presented himself communicates his belief what he is saying is important. The Internet isn't text-based anymore. Presentation is everything.


More people like @shagen454 please!

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You do realize that you don't need to give them your return address right?

Besides, they get rigid envelopes all the time - the post office is set up for it - sending a rigid piece of mail isn't a crime.

>> ^Boise_Lib:

Beautiful idea, thanks Trancecoach.
But, putting asphalt roofing shingles in would be a bad idea. It's possible--and since big business owns judges, probable--that someone could get charged with a felony. Something along the lines of using the federal mail to sabotage the mail sorting machines that are used on all of those return envelopes (they may even use this tactic against wood shims). Tampering with the USPS mail is a serious crime.
Now some brave soul may be okay with Civil Disobedience that might have such consequences--but they should be aware of the potential consequences first.

this is an old trick i recommend highly... however i have noticed they started putting codes on the return envelope and have even seen "warnings" about sending it back empty etc. but they called it "tampered"