James Madison clarifies the American right to bear arms

Hanover_Phistjokingly says...

... but the well armed militia is to protect us from a corrupt government when they steal from the people and strip us of our rights! We need the weapons of the day to overthrow that government and return power to the people!

To which I say: better get with overthrowing then...

jones1899says...

Background checks? Sure. No more gun show loopholes? Absolutely. Tougher penalties for gun related crimes. YES! But allowing the government to tell responsible citizens that they can't own something because criminals might use a similar gun to kill people makes zero sense in a dozen ways.

Criminals kill people. Killing people is illegal. Therefore criminals are up for doing illegal things. If owning certain guns is illegal and we've already established that criminals do illegal things, then...

Also, why is it the same crowd that wants to ban "assault weapons" (such a misunderstood and misused, meaningless term) supports legalizing drugs? How does that make a lick of sense? And do say that guns are responsible for more deaths, because it you look at the stats, there so called assault weapons are very RARELY used in crimes.

Let's just get rid of all the bullshit that's between the two sides. Can't we agree on: Background checks? Sure. No more gun show loopholes? Absolutely. Tougher penalties for gun related crimes. YES! YES! YES!

jones1899says...

Also the 2nd Amendment has already been studied and ruled on several times by several folks. For this guy (who is funny by the way) to act like HE knows what the forefathers meant is kinda meaningless. Entertaining, but meaningless.

dirkdeagler7says...

You know what's dangerous? puppies! look at what puppies are like *shows video of full grown fighting pit bulls* its insanity! Ban puppies!

An over the top analogy, but the assault rifles that people are clamoring to get banned are nothing like the rambo video he keeps showing. He then goes on to say people should be able to own rifles for hunting....those rifles are essentially the same as the "assault rifles" ur trying to ban minus the fancy looks and MAYBE the size of the clip.

Gun control supporters would gain a lot more traction if they just learned more and stopped sensationalizing things. Ultimately it just makes people who are in the middle or gun supporters dismiss the message.

Fletchsays...

Where does it say that? And what rights are being stripped? Good luck with your coup. I think you should all start immediately. Those digital camos, face paint, and Maxpeditions full of ammo and MRE's should serve you well against drones, gunships and HD satellite imaging. I'm sure Ted Nugent would be willing to bravely lead you all into battle, like he did during Vietnam.

Reminds me... got into an argument with a guy at work who thought the right to bear arms was an inalienable right. He didn't know what he was talking about either.

Hanover_Phistsaid:

... but the well armed militia is to protect us from a corrupt government when they steal from the people and strip us of our rights! We need the weapons of the day to overthrow that government and return power to the people!

To which I say: better get with overthrowing then...

Hanover_Phistsays...

dude... relax. I was being sarcastic.

Fletchsaid:

Where does it say that? And what rights are being stripped? Good luck with your coup. I think you should all start immediately. Those digital camos, face paint, and Maxpeditions full of ammo and MRE's should serve you well against drones, gunships and HD satellite imaging. I'm sure Ted Nugent would be willing to bravely lead you all into battle, like he did during Vietnam.

Reminds me... got into an argument with a guy at work who thought the right to bear arms was an inalienable right. He didn't know what he was talking about either.

Xaielaosays...

The problem is the current systems in check to prevent criminals from obtaining guns to kill people has been laughably de-balled and stripped down over the last decade +. When a felon can go to some of these 'no gun laws' states and buy an assault rifle with a 100 round drum, a glock with a 16 round clip, armor piercing ammunition and a flack jacket from the back of some guys van and it is 100% legal.. something is terribly wrong.

I do agree that this tends to get rather overboard. I'd much rather see assault rifles available for use at firing ranges instead of being personally owned vs outright outlawing them that will only cause other potential issues. I also agree 'assault weapons' is a buzzword.. though some weapons most certainly qualify (especially if the military classifies a weapon as such).

As to legalizing drugs, I wouldn't personally want to legalize 'all' drugs, but when there is already a dangerous, highly addictive drug that costs the country and states millions and takes/ruins thousands of lives a year, it seems to me that keeping a certain drug highly illegal to the point that in some states being caught with a gram can net you 10 years in prison.. there is something horribly wrong with the system.

jones1899said:

Background checks? Sure. No more gun show loopholes? Absolutely. Tougher penalties for gun related crimes. YES! But allowing the government to tell responsible citizens that they can't own something because criminals might use a similar gun to kill people makes zero sense in a dozen ways.

Criminals kill people. Killing people is illegal. Therefore criminals are up for doing illegal things. If owning certain guns is illegal and we've already established that criminals do illegal things, then...

Also, why is it the same crowd that wants to ban "assault weapons" (such a misunderstood and misused, meaningless term) supports legalizing drugs? How does that make a lick of sense? And do say that guns are responsible for more deaths, because it you look at the stats, there so called assault weapons are very RARELY used in crimes.

Let's just get rid of all the bullshit that's between the two sides. Can't we agree on: Background checks? Sure. No more gun show loopholes? Absolutely. Tougher penalties for gun related crimes. YES! YES! YES!

Truckchasesays...

Considering the nature of the revolution, it is my belief that the initial point of the 2nd Amendment was to facilitate the overthrow of a foreign (or corrupt) government by the people. That said, when we spend 40% of our tax revenue on the military industrial complex the whole "overthrow government by force" thing is kinda out the window. That & more guns in society sure as hell don't make our daily lives any better.

I guess the point is, we're kinda screwed either way. Maybe we should focus more on taking back our republic through acts of civil disobedience and persistent culture change. Let's just make sure that when we decide to go down this route for a more comfortable living we don't forget that only we, the citizens, can stop the downslide into a fiscal oligarchy.

Sincerely, Debbie Downer

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