Self Defense Scam Fail - EFO Empty Force

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What is the Empty Force (EFO)? Some skeptics attended an open demonstration organized in Barcelona (Spain) to seek some answers...this was our experience.
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chingalerasays...

✋ He's using the force of Randall James Hamilton Zwinge ✋

One of those skeptics should have countered his instructions and shown sensei the, Out-of-Nowhere-Bitch-Slap technique

EvilDeathBeesays...

Well, if you're attacker is a believer in EFO, and you let him know you're going to use EFO against him to stop his attack, and tell him when he's not doing it properly... well in that case it'd work perfectly!

Seriously, what makes believe in such stupid BS?

entr0pysays...

Yeah, and it's not even much of a defense to say that he only stole money from stupid people. It's just taking advantage of a vulnerable population.

But it is really amazing that so many basically normal adults can grow up without developing any skepticism or vague sense of what's allowed by physics.

tsarsfieldsaid:

I love watching bullshit get debunked.

That old guy stole money from people. Fuck him.

Stormsingersays...

I agree with all of you, it's sad that there are so many gullible people out there. And there's little doubt that this guy knows it's not reliable, so he qualifies as a conman.

But I have run into claims of similar "no touch paralysis" techniques outside of martial arts, and I'm morally certain that not all of the practitioners are consciously scamming people. The first time I saw it, I went home and practiced it with friends...basically trying to reproduce the effect. And it worked on some of them. I could see someone who tried it on a small sample population convincing himself that it was a true ability, rather than just the power of suggestion that only works on susceptible individuals.

Velocity5says...

Non-empiricism ruins peoples' lives.

I'm currently watching an extended family member destroy her end-of-life financial planning because she thinks she just needs to meditate/pray harder.

Instead of living below her means before it's too late, she's planning on being able to "manifest" the money needed to continue her needlessly exorbitant lifestyle.

Naturally, she's lost a lot of money to salesmen and con-artists with "high integrity" who pitched her "alternative investments" that were "sure things."

Velocity5says...

YouTube comment, QFT:

"If there were idiots who believed in this before this video was posted, I assure you there will be idiots who believe in it afterwards. He'll probably make something up about how the alignment of the stars affected him or that an evil EFO master put a curse on him."

MilkmanDansays...

Oh, the technique worked perfectly. It removed money from the pockets of idiots, exactly as intended.

And sorry @Stormsinger, but I think there is no chance that this dude actually believes in what he is selling. Not only that, he likely has enough experience with running this or similar scams that he knows that being debunked and maybe going viral like this will probably be a net positive to his bottom line -- more people will show up to see for themselves than will be discouraged away. Hell, I bet a higher-than-average percentage of the people attending Day 1 (excluding the group that was there as skeptics from the outset) came back for Day 2 just to see how he would respond.

There's a sucker born every minute. Some people believe in Ouija boards, pyramid power, homeopathy, etc. And some people apparently believe in "EFO". However, I feel confident that the guys putting on the "seminar" and doing the "demonstrations" (I use those terms in the loosest way possible) AREN'T among the believers.

Stormsingersays...

Oh, I agree fully about -this- guy. His behavior clearly shows he knows he's conning people.

But I'm equally sure there are suckers running these kinds of classes, that don't realize what they're "teaching" is nothing but placebo, at best.

MilkmanDansaid:

Oh, the technique worked perfectly. It removed money from the pockets of idiots, exactly as intended.

And sorry @Stormsinger, but I think there is no chance that this dude actually believes in what he is selling. Not only that, he likely has enough experience with running this or similar scams that he knows that being debunked and maybe going viral like this will probably be a net positive to his bottom line -- more people will show up to see for themselves than will be discouraged away. Hell, I bet a higher-than-average percentage of the people attending Day 1 (excluding the group that was there as skeptics from the outset) came back for Day 2 just to see how he would respond.

There's a sucker born every minute. Some people believe in Ouija boards, pyramid power, homeopathy, etc. And some people apparently believe in "EFO". However, I feel confident that the guys putting on the "seminar" and doing the "demonstrations" (I use those terms in the loosest way possible) AREN'T among the believers.

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