There seems to be two main forms of analysis going on here. One is seeing a cop justified in a use of force because she is 'resisting arrest' and there is an 'angry mob' around him. The other claims this was unjustified and that the cop is a pig.

Lets think about what constitutes resisiting arrest. Why is that automatically a bad thing? For what reason should human beings willfully accept an arrest when they don't find it justifiable? Why should we willingly accept a white male's handcuff and perspective of 'the law'? This officer is operating on an understanding of how society should operate and what his place in is when he decides to arrest this woman. This understanding is inherently hierarchical and oppressive. Think about the power relationship here, or between cops and society in general. There is little to no repercussion for these fuckers. Only recently with the advent of video technology can we show what these scumbags do all the time. Human beings have a right to resist the State. No reason at all why we should have to bend over for this class traitor.

That 'angry mob' idea. I wonder if it was a group of white people asking the officer to stop, what you categorize them as an angry mob? These people, if angry, have a right to be angry: a cop is repressing two woman, one of which was hit in the face. There is no reason why humans can't resist when they feel it necessary to do so. Your claim of an 'angry mob' reveals alot of racism. Guarantee that if it were white folks, you would call them 'patriots' or 'concerned citizens'.

I'm in favor of the second analysis. This is a pig, those are human beings resisting the state. Revolt is what makes us human

sexist

I can't tell how much of her responses are sarcasm, and that is the determiner for judging her responses. However, this Horowitz fella seems to be a pretty hardlined zionist. He places her in a situation where she can't state a middleground and sets up a false dichotomy. Hezbollah is responsible for some mean shit, but look at what their actions are against. Folks say that Israel doesn't want to exterminate anybody. Thats bullshit and shows a lack of study or critical analysis of the situation. Israel's entire existence is contingent on Imperialism. They are a modern example of "Manifest Destiny v. Native Americans". Fuck Israel, and fuck Horowitz for defending a racist, apartheid system. As far as the woman is concerned, her sarcasm was the incorrect approach to the situation, and she shouldn't have responded to the false dichotomy. Easy to say these things in my shoes though, not her's, at that moment n all that.

Good old '68. Bout time for a '10, eh?

Although the cops are exploited (Overworked, underpaid), in times of struggle and with examples like these, one should understand the police as class traitors. They do not side with working people, they are used as hired guns to protect corporate interest and routinely deny human beings their rights.

Police are becoming more and more militarized and privatized and soon the separation between the masses and the pigs will be complete.

How do we live in a society without these pigs? Workers militias.

ipfreely, actually I have. Here in Atlanta, I met a 20someyearold black male who spent time in prison for slinging dope. Guess what his job was? Trash pickup. You know those fellas that come around once a week? Yep. Sure, he may have been lying, but the fact is that this Prison-Industrial complex exists. Go look it up. It is a logical symptom and is inherently created in a capitalist system: Corporations seeking profit

Say it with me now. A-part-heid

Why do I say 'Fuck Israel'? Because Israel is colonialism. Israel is Imperialism. Israel is apartheid. Sorry folks, but those people living in that country that shrug their shoulders and say 'shitz crazy' are just as much to blame as the United States tax payers whose money goes to pay for the bombs dropped on the American School in west bank, a school built by U.S. $ and destroyed by U.S. $.

Neutrality is siding with the oppressor. Fuck Israel
Israel is an Apartheid state

Do Android Dream of Electric Ship blew me away. Kipple is used to describe entropy because it sounds like some sort of product you buy at a store, creating a metaphor to explain the destructive nature of consumerism. And this is only a word of this book.

Its quite possible to organize, don't be such a pessimist. We have been in seriously shitty situations before, but we did it, even if only for a moment.

It starts in your communities. It starts in REAL relationships not defined by capital. It starts it making people aware of their own power, that they don't have to take this shit anymore. I'm organizing in ATL. What are YOU doing? People should be in the streets, this is true. But this isn't Latin america. Its the United Statutes of selling caskets. Its the conglomeration of cities where people are their cubicles. Alienation has reached its alltime high from Capitalism.

But we must fight, my comrades. We must be organized. Why? If not for liberty, solidarity, equality, love. Do it because even if you lose, it is the only honorable thing left in this world

damn right rougy.


The idea that 'collectivists' believe rights come from the government is completely false. Maybe some do, but none that I know.

That was pure own. I'm so glad that somebody has finally spoke up about the hypocrisy of an apartheid nation state calling on atrocities of the past to justify its own oppression of a specific ethnic group.

Fucking Rocked

Morales and Chavez are potentially the two greatest leaders we have right now. Although I have problems with nations-states, its really too bad that its a matter of time till the U.S. launches its invasion.

Yeah. That's basically what I see from Gamer Culture. Fratboy discriminatory slang, ADD, general disconnect and some great material for a vid. Lol

Comrade,

Good to have a discussion. I'll try to keep this up with ya, but I'm kinda busy
Lets duel

>> ^griefer_queafer:
Point is, isn't this just merely self-regulation?

Suppose that the leaders pay attention to scientific findings, and they realize that things have to change. Yes, the ‘insurance’ is a form of self-regulation for capitalism to increase industry and corporate markets. But, as is typical of a capitalist, they are trying to make a business out of saving the planet, at the risk of millions of lives.
My friend, Corporations are merely the bourgeoisie in a new form. Corporations are merely organized institutions to serve bourgeoisie interest, an interest in gaining capital.
The regulation is not a true regulation, however. What they are doing here is selling an idea of ‘regulation’. True regulation would be addressing all the points in our economic systems and finding the ‘open systems’ and making them a ‘closed system’, in the permaculture sense. Reduction of waste. Control of production to meet the needs, not the wants. We don’t need to produce thousands of cars that will never get sold solely for the insane and desperate hope that they somehow could.
>> ^griefer_queafer:
Please respond to this question: what if 'growth' as it occurs today, also occurs concomitantly with POSITIVE effects to the planet?
Also, please make 'growth' relevant to our neo-capitalist moment.

neo-capitalist? In what ways have we moved beyond the worker? Are you to tell me that an office worker is not alienated in the cubicle? Are you to tell me that the the sweatshop labor in china, Indonesia, India, etc are not workers? Are you to tell me that nowhere on the planet, workers are paid in slave wages with the boss reaping profit off surplus value? Are you to tell me that workers control their hours, control their pay based on labor and the value of the product?

I think you have some tarnished definitions. Corporations are the logical outcome of Capitalism. Corporations operate on capitalist principles. We do not live in a post-industrial society. Manufacturing and productive have increased substantially, less workers are needed for high-tech facilities, but in the United States and other developed Imperialist countries, we don’t see the worker. We are alienated from them, and we exist as fragmented consumers. We are needed to buy these products so this economy and corporations can continue to exist. Neo-capitalism? Perhaps, but capitalism nonetheless. The changes aren’t as substantial as it may seem. Things have just become harder to see in post-modernism.
So what’s growth?
Destruction of the natural environment, say, the Amazon, for cattle ranches. Increased production to meet an increased demand. This is unsustainable, because Capitalism favors the increased demand. What do corporations want Americans to do? Consume. BUY BUY BUY. This is all very obvious. We see it everyday. Hell, just look at Christmas. Where do the resources come from to make these products and where do they end? We take it from the earth and it winds up in a dumpster or landfill. The resources aren’t returned, there is no equal exchange, energy is wasted in the inefficiency of our system.
Paper pulp released into the rivers. Environmental damage of the Niger River Delta for the oil, with acid rain so powerful it eats the tin-roofs of the shacks were the local villagers live. People that live on that land that don’t get ANYTHING from the energy companies except the corporate hired gunmen to maintain a ‘favorable business climate'. How then, is this 'favorable bussiness climate' POSTIVE for the planet? Its not positive for the planet or for any of us.
>> ^griefer_queafer:
Why is it a short term goal if the idea is to fundamentally change the ways in which 'growth' affects the planet?


But they aren’t trying to fundamentally change anything. They want the Maldives to go under so they can sell them the fucking life rafts! Capitalists/Corporations don’t give a shit about the mass amount of human suffering that will occur. They just want to maintain their profit margin, seize the planets resources, privatize everything, and maintain control over the worker. You are a worker, I am a worker. Even intellect and academia is a commodity that is bought and sold. We are the proletariat. We have a boss, we don’t control our hours, our labor is sold for surplus value, at the cost of our liberties and our security on this planet.

I would down vote this video if I had me a damn bronze star!

Heres why:

Essentially, he is uttering rhetoric used by Green Capitalists. Throw money at it and things will fix themselves. The reason why this is bullshit, utter, utter bullshit is because Capitalism DIRECTLY influences our carbon emissions, and thus, the human agency in Climate Change.

Capitalism favors CONSTANT growth. No growth means no money gained. In fact, the very rise of the Bourgeoisie class came about from the opening of new markets from the Age of Exploration. New markets mean new demand, this increases production to meet this demand, this requires more factories, more resources used, further stress on the planet, more emissions.

Spending money with a form of insurance is ultimately a short term goal. Yes, countries kept in poverty by imperialist powers need some $$$ to push them past unsustainable practices, but they could get there themselves if Imperialist powers didn't have interest there already. Think about where we get our resources, where most goods are produced and manufactured. Think where they go, to us. Capitalism wants us to buy more. I feel like the connections are very easy to see.

Environmental destruction will continue unless the actual system is changed.