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Huge Explosion (confirmed Attack) in Oslo 22.07.2011

Smugglarn says...

"Useful idiots" is a term of phrase which is apt, given you know anything about the sociopolitical climate in the region. Spit on their lives? I did nothing of the kind.

In regards to hate, that is that bubbly feeling you're feeling right now. Strange to call me a hate monger, when you are relishing in it. >> ^9547bis:

>> ^Smugglarn:
First, that it was a socialist gathering - they are useful idiots for the terrorists, but they were the party in power so maybe that was the reason.

Yes, when shamefully backtracking from your previous hate-mongering, do not forget to spit on the lives of murdered children, because them or their families were to part of the "right" political party.
You are a vile, disgusting person.

Huge Explosion (confirmed Attack) in Oslo 22.07.2011

Smugglarn says...

My first thought was that the explosion was the work of Muslim terrorists, and when I heard about the shooting - things didn't make sense. First, that it was a socialist gathering - they are useful idiots for the terrorists, but they were the party in power so maybe that was the reason. Second, it came out pretty early that the shooter was blond. I figured it was a retaliation - but couldn't find any timeline.

Now, everybody predictably screams that there is no Muslim threat, and the Nazi bogie man is everywhere. Which couldn't be further from the truth, and has been the dogma in Sweden, giving Muslim youths and Anarchists carte blanche to rob, vandalize, brutalize and murder citizens they don't approve of - oh and everybody else.

Everything sucks.

Huge Explosion (confirmed Attack) in Oslo 22.07.2011

Smugglarn says...

Good point, but stupidity and lack of education often go hand in hand, and some cultures are tailored around preying on functional societies. The point is, a proper risk evaluation wasn't done when considering immigration. Ideology above all reason. Tragic really.

Populist opponents of liberal immigration laws use foreign aid as an alibi, but even that is ruled by ideology and opportunism. Only fair trade works. (not the hippie brand - actual trade with proper wages being the rule)>> ^hpqp:

You're amalgamating two quite separate things: terrorism and crime. The latter has everything to do with lack of education (including basic civic behaviour sometimes), of money, and/or is a result of immigration with purely criminal intent (yes, that exists too). The former, however, needs only nationalistic or, in this case, religious ideology to be its fuel. Most (if not all) recent Islamist terrorists have come from middle-to-upper class families, have usually been well educated and had no "criminal gain" (i.e. $$) to be made from their actions.
>> ^Smugglarn:
You make the same mistake as the media in Sweden and Norway; labeling all immigrants and refugees as "foreigners". The problem with terrorism, crime, rape etc is fairly specific to different ethnic and religious groups of refugees: Somalis, Iraqis, Albanians etc. Not all of them, but they are dramatically over represented. I happen to know a an MP that is of Iraqi descent, but she is an atheist and I would guess from, if not upper class, then upper middle class. So that would be dominating factors, but knowing that - importing violent, uneducated fanatics?
The right wants cheap labour. The left wants votes to bring down the right. The middle and lower classes lose - including a lot of immigrants that have done nothing but being well mannered citizens of a secular democracy.
Oh, and do not think for a minute integrated immigrants feel sympathetic with the criminal element. Only left wing stooges do that - often in the media.
>> ^Yogi:
So now foreigners can't even be trusted in countries because they have bombs and they're there to blow up people? Even if it turns out to be a foreigner how the fuck do you two explain all the foreigners that day who DIDN'T blow anything up? The country is full of fucking morons and only a very select few of them post here, remember sifters there's tons of motherfuckers who actually think like this.
Also why does anything even genuine sentiment on Twitter sounds like you're being an asshole?
"I fear that many 100s could be dead. Poor poor poor guard that worked in the first floor. ,"



Huge Explosion (confirmed Attack) in Oslo 22.07.2011

Smugglarn says...

You make the same mistake as the media in Sweden and Norway; labeling all immigrants and refugees as "foreigners". The problem with terrorism, crime, rape etc is fairly specific to different ethnic and religious groups of refugees: Somalis, Iraqis, Albanians etc. Not all of them, but they are dramatically over represented. I happen to know a an MP that is of Iraqi descent, but she is an atheist and I would guess from, if not upper class, then upper middle class. So that would be dominating factors, but knowing that - importing violent, uneducated fanatics?

The right wants cheap labour. The left wants votes to bring down the right. The middle and lower classes lose - including a lot of immigrants that have done nothing but being well mannered citizens of a secular democracy.

Oh, and do not think for a minute integrated immigrants feel sympathetic with the criminal element. Only left wing stooges do that - often in the media.

>> ^Yogi:

So now foreigners can't even be trusted in countries because they have bombs and they're there to blow up people? Even if it turns out to be a foreigner how the fuck do you two explain all the foreigners that day who DIDN'T blow anything up? The country is full of fucking morons and only a very select few of them post here, remember sifters there's tons of motherfuckers who actually think like this.
Also why does anything even genuine sentiment on Twitter sounds like you're being an asshole?
"I fear that many 100s could be dead. Poor poor poor guard that worked in the first floor. ,"

Huge Explosion (confirmed Attack) in Oslo 22.07.2011

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Smugglarn says...

What god? The Hebrew war god in the Bible? Odin? Brahma? Ra?>> ^TheJehosephat:

That's the reason (to me anyway) God seems to work well. Anyway, this was a pretty civil discussion. Thanks @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/GeeSussFreeK" title="member since August 1st, 2008" class="profilelink">GeeSussFreeK @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/xxovercastxx" title="member since February 23rd, 2007" class="profilelink">xxovercastxx and @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/heathen" title="member since April 28th, 2008" class="profilelink">heathen
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/xxovercastxx" title="member since February 23rd, 2007" class="profilelink">xxovercastxx @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/TheJehosephat" title="member since October 12th, 2009" class="profilelink">TheJehosephat And even more damning is if you believe in causality as the prime way the universe works, you need a first link in the causality chain. Without causes and effects, you have no real meaning for time. You need a point to which causality starts, it is a logically necessary condition.

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Smugglarn says...

Bash the stimulus and the bitch about the badly worn down infrastructure?

Consistency is not a virtue among these talking heads.

Oh, and never mind the autocratic rule - their airports are nice. It's not like everything you say is the DIRECT OPPOSITE of the ideals of the US.

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