The book of ENOCH 160 B.C. With the earlier Fathers and Apologists it had all the weight of a canonical book, but towards the close of the third and the beginning of the fourth centuries it began to be discredited, and finally fell under the ban of the Church.The book was then lost sight of till 1773, when an Ethiopic version of it was found in Abyssinia by Bruce. This traveller brought home three copies of it, two old MSS. and a transcript from one of them.
The influence of Enoch on the New Testament has been greater than that of all the other apocryphal and pseudepigraphal books taken together. ' The Son of Man.' This definite title is found in the Book of Enoch for the first time in Jewish literature, and is, historically, the source of the New Testament designation, and contributes to it some of its most characteristic contents.the angelic watchers who fell from
And we also read the following in the book of enoch:
Son of Man was named in the presence of the Lord of
Spirits and his name before the Head of Days. 3. And
before the sun and the signs were created, before the stars
of the heaven were made his name was named before the
Lord of Spirits. 4. He will be a staff to the righteous
on which they will support themselves and not fall, and he
will be the light of the Gentiles and the hope of those who
are troubled of heart. 5. All who dwell on earth will fall
down and bow the knee before him and will bless and laud
and celebrate with song the Lord of Spirits. 6. And for
this reason has he been chosen and hidden before Him before
the creation of the world and for evermore. 7.
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A10anisAll religions are based on ignorance, fear and control. They are simply man made myths, designed to control man. I've looked at the myriad "faiths" over time and, no matter how tempted, always had one thing stopping me getting trapped by any of them. It's called intelligence.
enoch@A10anis
that was probably the most smug and condescending comment i have seen in awhile.
it has the appearance at first glance of being a thoughtful criticism of religion but in reality is just a childish swipe at people of a religious flavor.
intelligent people tend to avoid blanket statements and broad generalizations.
religion should be criticized,debated and discussed.
the underlying philosophies should be examined for their veracity and their ability for practical applications in a modern world.
but your commentary does none of the above.
you just used this video thread as an opportunity to call religious folk dumb.
well..dumber than you.
and you did it without ever watching the video.
yeah..thats classy.
A10anisSaying that; "All religions are based on ignorance, fear and control," is NOT a "blanket statement," nor is it a "broad generalisation." It is, simply, a fact. You say that; "religion should be criticized,debated and discussed and
the underlying philosophies should be examined for their veracity." Well, myriad great thinkers who have done just that. Their conclusion? There may, indeed, be a superior force. But the "gods" portrayed in literature, of any faith, are clearly man made. In fact, the gods of man can be seen as nothing more than divine dictators, cruel and vengeful.
I would never call followers of religion dumb. I would, however, say that they are intellectually lazy in accepting their brainwashing without question. If, of course, they enjoy being slaves then they are free to be so. As long as their bronze age cults are kept to themselves, and out of schools and politics.
@A10anis
that was probably the most smug and condescending comment i have seen in awhile.
it has the appearance at first glance of being a thoughtful criticism of religion but in reality is just a childish swipe at people of a religious flavor.
intelligent people tend to avoid blanket statements and broad generalizations.
religion should be criticized,debated and discussed.
the underlying philosophies should be examined for their veracity and their ability for practical applications in a modern world.
but your commentary does none of the above.
you just used this video thread as an opportunity to call religious folk dumb.
well..dumber than you.
and you did it without ever watching the video.
yeah..thats classy.
enoch@A10anis
while i do truly appreciate your change of tone,you fail to address that your original comment was smug and condescending.
which is what i was addressing.
and the word "ALL" is most certainly a blanket statement.
there are 4500 known religions (many defunct at present).
so maybe you can understand why i criticized your commentary as being overly generalized.
and i would also like to clarify a few things.
1.i find you to be an intelligent and insightful sifter.which is why i called you out.NOT to be an ass or to be confrontational but rather because i think you are a person who is better than your original comment.there are many i wouldnt have wasted my time on.
2.i am not a huge fan of organized religion.i have some serious issues with those highly influential institutions.
3.i actually agree with your basic premise:religion is control by use of fear.
so my issue with your original comment was not your basic premise but in its delivery.
4.dont be too quick to judge ALL religions solely based on doctrine and dogma.at its core religions are just human kind trying to make sense of reality and their place in it.religion is the beginnings of philosophy,and while it can be steeped in superstition and magic thinking,it has also offered some incredibly profound insights and understandings.
socrates,aristotle,plato..these were the beginnings of secular philosophy but before that? it was religion that tackled the big questions.
5.you really should watch the video.the book of enoch is...well..a bizarre apocryphal book.
anyways.i always enjoy your commentary and i hope you take my response with the humanity it was intended.
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