Trying to remeber every detail and the only thing that stuck was chesthair... GRRRR

If you're going to make a video parodying harmless continuity errors in your past vids, you may want to take the added steps to ensure you don't break any fundamental filmmaking rules such as the 180 degree rule.

When he speaks to his sister he's looking right to left. The reverse shot she's also looking right to left. This makes it appear as if they're not speaking to one another.

I've bitched about this once before on here. It's a pet peeve. Internet nerd hath spoketh.

I like the magically multiplying wine bottles, and then the switch to taco's. This made me chuckle.

>> ^blankfist:

If you're going to make a video parodying harmless continuity errors in your past vids, you may want to take the added steps to ensure you don't break any fundamental filmmaking rules such as the 180 degree rule.
When he speaks to his sister he's looking right to left. The reverse shot she's also looking right to left. This makes it appear as if they're not speaking to one another.
I've bitched about this once before on here. It's a pet peeve. Internet nerd hath spoketh.


Actually that rule seems completely stupid in this case. It's one thing if you have a car leaving the scene through the left side, and in the next scene appearing again from the left. That just feels weird.

But in this case? If they weren't talking like they are in this video, I would think it looked completely stupid.
Or you can show me an example of the rule being used properly in a similar setting, and I'll watch and see if it works better.

@EMPIRE, I'm all for film rules being broken. I'm not trying to be a snob here (or maybe I am and don't want to admit it). But this particular rule works and works well and especially works well during dinner scenes.

Actually I think this is an excellent example of when the 180 degree rule doesn't apply. They are sitting at a rectangular table, and the shot is from the middle of a side to the opposite side. Every viewer will understand that frame of reference, especially with the table in every shot. However, if the table was not seen, or if the angle was askew, I would agree. The 180 degree rule is all about frame of reference, after all. Also, notice that the 180 degree rule is observed perfectly between the son and father. Though it's likely that is just because it was the simplest way to shoot the scene.

Plenty of examples where eyelines aren't broken at a rectangle table.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spmqbs8YCW8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DIhwWTHcG0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_b0-mMtp8Y

And so on...

I'm with you. I was seriously disturbed by that chest hair. He GROOMED IT to look like that????



>> ^TheGenk:

Trying to remeber every detail and the only thing that stuck was chesthair... GRRRR

Well done. The point was made.

Maker's Mark? This guy knows what he's doing!

You're missing my point. I didn't mean it *should* be done that way, I meant it *can* be done that way because the frame of reference is clear.

As for your examples, I think they prove my point. The Christmas Vacation scene uses tons of angles and moving camera, so you need the 180 degree rule. The American History X example is extremely simple with almost all the shots concerning the father and son who are sitting at an angle to each other, so the rule applies. And the Donnie Darko scene is actually a little confusing because they break the rule with the mom and son, and they are sitting at an angle to each other.

>> ^blankfist:

Plenty of examples where eyelines aren't broken at a rectangle table.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spmqbs8YCW8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DIhwWTHcG0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_b0-mMtp8Y
And so on...

That's what the script supervisor's for.

The key is having Beverly D'Angelo in the scene.

>> ^blankfist:

Plenty of examples where eyelines aren't broken at a rectangle table.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spmqbs8YCW8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DIhwWTHcG0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_b0-mMtp8Y
And so on...

@MaxWilder, not everything is an argument. I was just throwing my perspective into the ring. Take it or not.

I think the camera angle was chosen in order to make the discontinuities as undetectable as possible. He was able to mask the changes by choosing camera angles that don't overlap between cuts.

What was the first change you all saw?

Is his chest hair intentionally shaped like that weird falcon thing you see in sort of dictatorial settings? You know the one with the red background and the bird on it looking to the left?

Edit: Found it. His chest hair fucking looks like this: http://www.ngw.nl/int/dld/images/duitsla4.jpg

Intentional or is he the second coming of hitler and that's his mark?

Odd chesthair growth pattern there.

@blankfist, so I'm an arguer. I enjoy the expression of opposing viewpoints. Sometimes heated, sometimes in fun.

I wish I could upvote twice for the idea of a "family shot".

>> ^MaxWilder:

blankfist, so I'm an arguer. I enjoy the expression of opposing viewpoints. Sometimes heated, sometimes in fun.


No, I just felt like I was sounding like an indignant film nerd so I decided to STFU.

Come on guys, the chest hair is the Batman symbol!

jacksfilms introduction of the BATMAN CHEST HAIR in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R-vDejxMr8

This guy is too young to do this intentionally, but it sure looks like the classic upside down triangle of a grown woman's pubic area. I don't think anyone his age has ever seen such a thing.



>> ^dotdude:

jacksfilms introduction of the BATMAN CHEST HAIR in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R-vDejxMr8

He did it intentionally and clearly identifies it as a Batman symbol in the video (see the link I provided). On BlogTV he does "Batman Pushups."

http://www.blogtv.com/People/jacksfilms

He's milking the whole Batman thing as long as he can - now that he's moved to L.A.
>> ^bareboards2:

This guy is too young to do this intentionally, but it sure looks like the classic upside down triangle of a grown woman's pubic area. I don't think anyone his age has ever seen such a thing.

>> ^dotdude:
jacksfilms introduction of the BATMAN CHEST HAIR in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R-vDejxMr8

Upvote for the Natty Boh