Why You Should NEVER Fly American Airlines

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks attempted to travel from Los Angeles to Miami recently, things went horribly wrong. American Airlines delayed the flight repeatedly and it appeared that the only reason they diverted a plane was due to protests and because they were being recorded. As Cenk and others began to board, people who had been recording the incident were told they were not going to be allowed to fly on the plane and that they would have to eat the cost of the ticket unless they could work something out with customer service. Supposedly because the pilot didn't feel comfortable letting them on.

After he swapped to Jet Blue, he got a response from AA saying the reason why the people filming were removed was due to safety procedures. Apparently AA has a rule that does not allow you to fly if you record their employees for any reason.

I find it sad that due to the terrorist attacks of 9/11, airport and airplane employees wield autonomous power in regards to anything they don't like. Piss off an employee and you will find they have a rule of some type to fuck you over ten thousand-fold. Annoy them further and they will either have police/security escort you out or put you in a small room to be interrogated as a possible threat until THEY are satisfied otherwise. The small amount of security, if any, we are given is not worth the power we gave these individuals.
spawnflaggersays...

doesn't seem as bad as my personal experience with Emirates...
a 40-minute flight was delayed about 6 hours, then cancelled, then re-routed, then had to stand in "customer service" line 4 hours, then got new flight (another 5 hours later), and they said they rebooked the final connecting flight, but when I landed - nothing. The connecting airline had zero record of me or my supposed-ticket. Stuck in HK airport another 6 hours.

At least I finally got there and didn't lose cost of flight ticket.

I did also have AA flight cancelled (in Barcelona), but to their credit they had entire plane (300+) rebooked within 45 minutes. And hotel+meal+shuttle.

jmdsays...

Uhmm, this isn't new. For decades now they have been this bad. A week doesn't go by that something isn't in the news about them screwing over passengers. Unfortunately the sheep keep them in business. If it isn't them getting kicked off, they don't care.

Esoogsays...

Gonna have to find the previous video to this one he keeps referring to, because this one doesn't tell me shit. "They brought the plane because we got angry." Really? This one just doesn't tell the whole story.

Babymechsays...

Nah, this prick thinks he could use the situation to make some money for his network, and, half a million clicks later, here we are.

Esoogsaid:

this prick thinks his mob mentality was helping the situation.

bcglorfsays...

Here's probably the real reason Cenk got booted, a clip of him shouting down the staff as one of the other customers in line is trying tell Cenk to back off.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x43at5z

I find this unsurprising on all levels. The airlines care about profits, and the passengers are just cargo to them so the shoddy situation isn't uncommon. Also, Cenk always seems to have this entitled and enraged attitude in ever video I see him in, so him going ballistic at everyone is unsurprising. Him getting booted from the flight is not surprising, but given how little I think of Cenk's behaviour, it's oddly satisfying,

Esoogsaid:

Here is a link to the other video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1EwqVZLB2E

I really don't like this guy's attitude. You can't just demand another plane show up, they snap their fingers, and it happens. It takes time, and this prick thinks his mob mentality was helping the situation.

newtboysays...

True, but when they tell you the plane has left the hanger and will be there soon...and then 5 hours later there's still no plane and they say the exact same thing, it's absolutely clear and unequivocal that they lied to you 5 hours earlier, so why would you think they're not lying now?

I always give them the benefit of a doubt UNTIL they lie. Once they lie about what's happening, all bets are off.

This is a big part of why I fly as little as possible. I HATE giving an industry that's SO anti-customer service and that lies at every turn a dime. Sometimes there's no choice, but if there is, I'll drive up to 12 hours to avoid any airline. Screw those liars.

Esoogsaid:

Here is a link to the other video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1EwqVZLB2E

I really don't like this guy's attitude. You can't just demand another plane show up, they snap their fingers, and it happens. It takes time, and this prick thinks his mob mentality was helping the situation.

Lambozosays...

I dont like cenk for two reasons.

His treatment via completely misrepresentation of Sam Harris is so bad its intellectual dishonesty comparible to and sometimes worse than a fox news talking head.

Secondly, what kind of jerk names his network after co-perpatrators of the armenian genocide? At best a genocide denier.... yuck, no thanks.

Babymechsays...

...what?

Lambozosaid:

I dont like cenk for two reasons.

His treatment via completely misrepresentation of Sam Harris is so bad its intellectual dishonesty comparible to and sometimes worse than a fox news talking head.

Secondly, what kind of jerk names his network after co-perpatrators of the armenian genocide? At best a genocide denier.... yuck, no thanks.

bcglorfsays...

Cenk WAS a denier of the Armenian genocide and wrote a paper back in his school days in which he put those beliefs to hard paper. Despite him having named his network after a group responsible in said genocide, he is quite adamant that he has changed his opinion and admits younger him was wrong.

I've not looked close enough to say if he's reformed or not, but the entirety of his personality and behaviour today is so jerkish I strongly dislike him regardless of if he's reformed from his 'worse' past.

Babymechsaid:

...what?

Babymechsays...

Wow, that taught me two things that I'd somehow completely missed - 1) Cenk is apparently still incredibly evasive about the Armenian genocide, at least as of his Reddit AMA of 2 years ago, and 2) the origin of the name the Young Turks. I'd always completely and only assumed that it meant 'headstrong newcomers' - I didn't know shit about the Jön Türkler movement. Thanks!

bcglorfsaid:

Cenk WAS a denier of the Armenian genocide and wrote a paper back in his school days in which he put those beliefs to hard paper. Despite him having named his network after a group responsible in said genocide, he is quite adamant that he has changed his opinion and admits younger him was wrong.

I've not looked close enough to say if he's reformed or not, but the entirety of his personality and behaviour today is so jerkish I strongly dislike him regardless of if he's reformed from his 'worse' past.

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