Why Black Holes Don't Exist

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HenningKOsays...

No one will ever see a singularity, that's part and parcel of the whole black hole thing. Most physicists think they don't actually exist and just use the term as a marker for the breakdown of the current standard model. There can't ACTUALLY be infinite curvature of space-time: the idea is mathematically absurd. But that's what our best theory leads to... thus, our best theory is wrong and we know it. When physicists (or perhaps this guy, who knows?) come up with a theory of quantum gravity that fits all observation and has predictive power, everyone expects the singularity issue will be resolved. Einsteinian relativity will still work, just as Newtonian gravity still works today, it's just not the whole picture.

A black hole does not need to have a singularity in order to have such powerful gravity that light can't escape. The mass needn't be infinitely dense, just packed smaller than the event horizon. But since nothing can escape the event horizon, not even light, we'll never directly observe what's going on in there. Accept it!

HenningKOsays...

Of course, all I really needed to prove this guy is full of shit is his laughable misunderstanding of escape velocity. An escape velocity greater than light's would be required to escape from a black hole... but since nothing can exceed THAT velocity requirement, we say nothing can escape. Nothing is actually moving at >=c...

ELeesays...

Wow. I am very interested in gravity theory, but I could not watch this more than a third of the way through..

To me, this comes across like an argument about evolution between Creation Scientists and Intelligent Design advocates.. Most of this video is just different ways of misunderstanding gravity theory. As has been mentioned before, the concept of a black hole does not depend on the physics of a singularity.

I cannot find the video of the observed orbits of stars near the black hole at the center of the Milky Way, but this site has an animation of their orbits. This direct "dynamical evidence" goes along with the 30+ years of other evidence from radio, X-ray, gamma-ray, IR, etc.
http://www.mpe.mpg.de/ir/GC/index.php

Psychologicsays...

>> ^bluecliff:
Doesn't Hawking radiation escape from a black hole?


If you define "escaping" as moving away from the black hole from within the event horizon then no, Hawking radiation doesn't technically escape from black holes.

Pretty much anywhere in space there are pairs of matter/antimatter particles that appear spontaneously and then destroy each other. However, on the event horizon of a black hole these pairs often get split... one falls into the black hole, but the other escapes as a form of radiation. It doesn't actually come from inside the black hole itself.

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