I really don't know where to stand in this conflict. Both sides and media are saying so much conflicting stuff. There's a lot of propaganda going on, that's for sure.

It is a stratigic location for both Russia and the West to hold. Don't ever expect the true story. West is going to say that Russia is the bold bear of the cold war which is maybe to some extent and Russia is going to say it is a puppet state where america is being the brutal one. You have to look at the after math, won't know till this is over. Being that Russia is knocking on their capital door, I would tend to believe the US side of the story, but that isn't clear yet.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
You have to look at the after math, won't know till this is over. Being that Russia is knocking on their capital door, I would tend to believe the US side of the story, but that isn't clear yet.


I'm the exact opposite.

Any time you have people like William Kristol wagging their fingers at Russia, you can bet money that Russia is probably in the right.

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BTW, for my $0.02, this is sounds like the least biased report on the situation I've yet come across, since it spreads the blame literally to everyone involved, Putin, Saakashvili, Bush, McCain, Brzezinski, etc.

It sounds like another perfect confluence of stupid U.S. policies in the past colliding with stupid U.S. policies of the present to give people an excuse to fight over things they've been unhappy about for a long time (that has literally nothing to do with us).

He's echoing the Kremlin's political talking points memos.

Russia hopes to have it's cake and eat it too by bombing Georgia whilst universally opposing autonomy for breakaway regions all over the world because they don't want to encourage their own breakaway regions (Chechnya, Dagestan).

Where the fuck is farhad, that Putin hating hippie BASTARD!!!

I wanna hear what he has to say! Westernization, democracy, unicorns, candies and farts!! YAY!

Well, unfortunately despite yesterdays temporary truce agreement brokered by the French president Sarkozy, which both sides signed, Russian troops and tanks have already passed the city of Gori and are at this moment slowly approaching Tbilisi (Georgian capital). Something's seriously fucking wrong with their army chiefs, because president Medvedev ordered a ceasefire and the agreement said they'd be pulling out of Georgia, possibly even out of Osettia. This looks like they're trying to occupy the country for good.

CNN video: http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/08/13/bpr.chance.georiga.ceasefire.bx.cnn
Article: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/13/georgia.russia.war/index.html

Looking for blame is pretty fucking stupid at this point, if you ask me. Both sides escalated the initial conflict, but Russia has crossed all the lines there were to cross.

Whether you believe his opinions or not, this is a good recap of what has happened in the region recently.

Russian officials have said that the conflict was started by Dick Cheney in an attempt to keep Obama from winning the presidency.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/08/report-russians.html


Bwahhahahahahahah!!!!! What does that tell you about Putin?