Verizon Fios throttles Netflix - Net Neutrality

The Verge: Colin Nederkoorn, a startup CEO living in New York City, was unhappy with his Netflix service. He pays Verizon for FiOS service that promises 75Mbps down. But when he tried to stream video, it was a miserable experience, with buffering and low-definition pictures. So Nederkoorn decided to measure the speed of his connection. What he found was that when he was streaming Netflix he was getting speeds of just 375kbps, or 0.5 percent of what he was paying Verizon for.

To try to fix the problem, Nederkoorn began using a virtual private network, or VPN, which could essentially act as a virtual ISP that would route the traffic he requested from Netflix through a different set of connections than the ones being used when he went through Verizon. The results were pretty astounding: his speed increased to 3,000kbps and Netflix video streamed without buffering, and in much higher quality.
nocksays...

Had this same problem. All fixed using a VPN. If you ask me, the ISP's are shooting themselves in the foot because they can't decipher VPN traffic at all and they are forcing us to use them more and more.

Yogisays...

I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!

My VPN does increase my ability to download stuff a bit but it's not amazing. I just think Verizon Fios is shit sometimes. Also I know they've been totally throttling Netflix, those bastards.

What VPNs do other people use on here, any I should consider?

Januarisays...

Speaking as one of the tech 'normies' which i prefer to admitting how ignorant i really am with a lot of this. I think a big part of the problem is peoples knee-jerk reaction to blame Netflix... i think its something Netflix REALLY needs to get out in-front of and let their customers know it isn't them!...

nocksays...

After much research, I chose Private Internet Access. They never log anything so they can't be compelled to provide browsing/download histories. Check out: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/how-one-small-american-vpn-company-is-trying-to-stand-up-for-privacy/

Also, I have noticed that file locker services are throttled big time on Verizon Fios, but through a VPN they are super fast. There is probably 5-10% overhead for using a VPN, but it's still way better than a non-VPN connection.

Yogisaid:

I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!

My VPN does increase my ability to download stuff a bit but it's not amazing. I just think Verizon Fios is shit sometimes. Also I know they've been totally throttling Netflix, those bastards.

What VPNs do other people use on here, any I should consider?

Yogisays...

They did that with Verizon already and Verizon threatened them with a cease and desist.

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/internet/netflix-to-cut-messages-blaming-verizon-for-crappy-streaming-performance-1252625

Januarisaid:

Speaking as one of the tech 'normies' which i prefer to admitting how ignorant i really am with a lot of this. I think a big part of the problem is peoples knee-jerk reaction to blame Netflix... i think its something Netflix REALLY needs to get out in-front of and let their customers know it isn't them!...

Yogisays...

Oh good, that's the one I use I was hoping I wasn't missing out on anything. I used to use Pirate Bays free one but after it went away this one was suggested to take it's place so I signed up for a year. I think it's been a year and a few months now, it's been worth it.

nocksaid:

After much research, I chose Private Internet Access. They never log anything so they can't be compelled to provide browsing/download histories. Check out: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/how-one-small-american-vpn-company-is-trying-to-stand-up-for-privacy/

Also, I have noticed that file locker services are throttled big time on Verizon Fios, but through a VPN they are super fast. There is probably 5-10% overhead for using a VPN, but it's still way better than a non-VPN connection.

Darkhandsays...

I got Torguard after watching this video.

There is an index of VPNs that get interviewed by a bittorrent blog or something like that. In the interview they ask them what kind of measures they take for security purposes etc etc.

Torguard doesn't keep ANY logs. Vypr (the service this guy uses) keeps logs for a while which to me seems to defeat the purpose of having a VPN.

Yogisaid:

I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!

My VPN does increase my ability to download stuff a bit but it's not amazing. I just think Verizon Fios is shit sometimes. Also I know they've been totally throttling Netflix, those bastards.

What VPNs do other people use on here, any I should consider?

Darkhandsays...

Under most circumstances I would agree with you,.

But the problem here is cancel with Verizon and go where?

billpayersaid:

Criminal.
He should call Verizon, cancel and tell them why.
American's have become so docile, they'll put up with anything.

Januarisays...

That really is the catch @Darkhand you absolutely nailed... We're VERY fortunate in Austin to have a small internet company called Grande... If your in Texas give them a look they are expanding and well worth your business... certainly before garbage companies like Verizon or ATT.

@Yogi Thats very discouraging to see how quickly they caved. Wasn't even aware it happened. I mean if Netflix can't even be bothered to fight WTF.

entr0pysays...

Of course, now that ISPs are more aware of this test video they'll do some voodoo to circumvent it working properly. One thing I learned in a recent CS class, that Comcast routes traffic to the shortest and quickest route if you go to any "speed test" website. And for any other website it will often send your traffic through a hub several states away.

Fuck those guys.

spawnflaggersays...

My biggest complaint about Verizon is that they took all these tax benefit arrangements with many states, in return for the promise to build out "broadband" infrastructure. In those agreements, Verizon said they would do FTTH (fiber-to-the-home, 10Mbps or more), but some years later they conveniently redefined "broadband" as 512kbps DSL, after saving 10s of millions of dollars from each of those states.

That is literally criminal (breach of contract), but nothing ever happened to them for doing so.

Once the infrastructure is built, Verizon (and Comcast, AT&T, TimeWarner, etc) profit margin is ENORMOUS. (more than any oil company makes on gasoline, by %)

If they are going to charge so much, they should at least deliver what they promise, and make an effort to make popular sites (netflix, youtube) as fast as possible.

I don't mind if ISPs attempt to throttle certain criminal sites (piratebay, sarahpalinchannel, etc)

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