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Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Thursday, February 28th, 2008 2:35am PST - promote requested by original submitter uhohzombies.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'disabled, deaf, musician, uplifting' to 'disabled, deaf, musician, uplifting, short, film, Beethoven, hearing, lost, live, learn' - edited by my15minutes

*happy *cinema worthy of self-*promotion, zombies.

great pick.

Adding video to channels (Cinema, Happy) - requested by my15minutes.

watching this from the perspective of someone who also has an 'invisible' disability was fantastic.

Although I'm disappointed they didn't play any of her music or let her do her own narration.

Beautiful.

Bass rocks. I am mostly deaf without my hearing aid, but I like to feel bass.

the sentence "if a tree falls and there is not one around, does it make a sound?". It is a sentence that most clearly explain what is wrong with human kind. For some f*cked up reason humans thinks that the universe go around them. I hate that! I hate that sentence! I am piss to be a human sometimes. Bunch of arrogant self center bastards.

>> ^nickreal03:
the sentence "if a tree falls and there is not one around, does it make a sound?". It is a sentence that most clearly explain what is wrong with human kind. For some f cked up reason humans thinks that the universe go around them. I hate that! I hate that sentence! I am piss to be a human sometimes. Bunch of arrogant self center bastards.

You might be missing the intent of the question. It's a thought experiment, not unlike Schrödinger's Cat. You have to break it down to get at the crux of the question.

When the tree falls, it introduces vibrations into the air. When these vibrations make their way into the ear of an animal, they are perceived as sound. The animal need not be human, just capable of hearing.

The provocative part of the experiment is asking yourself if vibrations traveling through a medium are sound, or do they only become sound when perceived?

I didn't understand the point of the question for many years. At some point, for a reason I don't recall, I saw it for what it was and it has been a much more fascinating question since then.

Now if the question was, "If a tree falls in the forest and no self-righteous, rich, white asshole is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" then you might have a point.

mmm I love the Australian accent.... But i AM an aussie

Moving.

This as way to PC - after school special for me. Shallow. There's so many questions I want to ask.

>> ^xxovercastxx:
The provocative part of the experiment is asking yourself if vibrations traveling through a medium are sound, or do they only become sound when perceived?

I believe this approach sidesteps the actual intent of the thought experiment. Looking at it in this analytical way implies that you accept the existence of the unobserved, and turns it into a very easily-resolvable question of semantics - that is, do you define "sound" as vibrations or their perception.
Of course, the nature of the question implies that the tree falls even if no one's around, but I believe the purpose is to stimulate a progression of thought back "up the tree," as it were, asking "does something happen if no one knows it?"
Schrödinger's Cat is an excellent example, illustrating the "no" answer (suggesting that an uncollapsed waveform is essentially unrealized), while the vibration\perception position illustrates the "yes" (by accepting the existence of the unobserved).