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Trancecoachsays...

While it's a complicated issue, there's one facet of this that I feel is worth pointing out: What happens when the government creates a welfare state, by giving financial support to single mothers? Well, for one thing, it removes the incentives for those single mothers to pursue stable and responsible men with whom to raise their children, thereby making the less responsible (read: thug, gang-banger, "pretty boy") more desirable. As a result, men feel less motivated to become stable and responsible (thinking, what's the point if all women want is a dude with "street-cred?"), thus perpetuating a cycle in which boys are raised with few male role models outside of those they meet on the street.

shatterdrosesays...

Really? Shallow analysis much which absolutely nothing factual backing it up? Either that or you forgot the sarcasm button.

Trancecoachsaid:

While it's a complicated issue, there's one facet of this that I feel is worth pointing out: What happens when the government creates a welfare state, by giving financial support to single mothers? Well, for one thing, it removes the incentives for those single mothers to pursue stable and responsible men with whom to raise their children, thereby making the less responsible (read: thug, gang-banger, "pretty boy") more desirable. As a result, men feel less motivated to become stable and responsible (thinking, what's the point if all women want is a dude with "street-cred?"), thus perpetuating a cycle in which boys are raised with few male role models outside of those they meet on the street.

chingalerasays...

Uhhh, maybe you needed the sarcasm button for THAT statement. What's "factual" is the end result all over the fucking televison and internet, a national case-study of how to fuck-up a generation of imprint-able minds. Whether the scenario TC layed-down or a dozen others from the same petri, what do need, a diagram, a dozen "expert" analyses in the form of published thesis or someone YOU trust to make the leap??

Punks from broken homes matey, males and females with no business breeding, for lack of intent or abilities. It ain't fucking rocket-science man, it's model airplanes.

shatterdrosesaid:

Really? Shallow analysis much which absolutely nothing factual backing it up? Either that or you forgot the sarcasm button.

shatterdrosesays...

I'm sorry, but those conclusions are pure emotional based off what you see in the MSM. If you can find me a study, a legitimate one, not one from Faux News or Huffington Post, that actually shows that a government safety net induces vagrant behavior, then I will believe you. Until then, I will stick with all the studies that show very clearly that social safety barriers do in fact work, and that the decades old gutting of the programs are wrecking havoc on the system. Not to mentioned the systematic desecration of the educational system that's been designed solely for "efficiency" and pumps out students that are over qualified, unhappy, massively in debt and lead to believe a lie in which they can never achieve, or the exact opposite and ditches those most in need yet are the most visually different.

Combine this with white flight, red lining, and a culture of fear mongering, race baiting and rapid communication and we have a perfect storm. The general population is so overrun with sad stories and empathy inducing situations they actually go into empathy shock - a state in which they cease to care and numb themselves so they don't have to make a decision. A decision which they may later feel bad about. Instead, it's "nothing I can do about it so I won't care." And yes, this happens with those "gang-bangers" you talk about.

Instead of solving the situation, which is a blatant and total discrepancy in incomes, social normality, and general empathy, we will continue to have this problem. So long as white flight occurs and the NYPD openly racially profiles and harasses 110% (no joke) of the black community, and so long as the Christian Right still chants "it's ok to profile brown people" both in NYC, Arizona and everywhere else we will continue to have this problem.

Ever hear of the Theory of Attitudes? Or Reactance? There is far more going on than "if we give them money they'll stop working." Because I'm pretty sure every Christmas when your parents (general assumption) gives you presents, you instantly stop working. Totally proven concept, eh?

chingalerasaid:

Uhhh, maybe you needed the sarcasm button for THAT statement. What's "factual" is the end result all over the fucking televison and internet, a national case-study of how to fuck-up a generation of imprint-able minds. Whether the scenario TC layed-down or a dozen others from the same petri, what do need, a diagram, a dozen "expert" analyses in the form of published thesis or someone YOU trust to make the leap??

Punks from broken homes matey, males and females with no business breeding, for lack of intent or abilities. It ain't fucking rocket-science man, it's model airplanes.

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