The Myth of "Gun control"

On Friday's 20/20, ABC anchor John Stossel discussed the self-defensive benefits of gun ownership, debunking the myth that "gun control reduces crime." The segment aired during 20/20's recurring series, "Myths, Lies & Downright Stupidity," based on Stossel's book of the same title. Citing the recent Federal Appeals Court for DC ruling overturning Washington, D.C.'s ban on gun ownership, Stossel talked to the pro-gun plaintiff in the case, Tom Palmer, and pointed out that the murder rate in D.C. increased after the city's gun ban: "Since Washington's gun law passed, the murder rate actually increased, even while America's murder rate dropped. It's because guns can also save lives, says Palmer, as one saved his years ago in California." -youtube

They mention Canada at the very end.
Bucksays...

hey Yogi, Harvard study good enough for ya?

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

The study, which just appeared in Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy (pp. 649-694), set out to answer the question in its title: "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence." Contrary to conventional wisdom, and the sniffs of our more sophisticated and generally anti-gun counterparts across the pond, the answer is "no." And not just no, as in there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime, but an emphatic no, showing a negative correlation: as gun ownership increases, murder and suicide decreases.

grintersays...

Why are they focusing on the number of violent crimes? ..With firearms as easy to get as they are in the States, why would anyone think that violent crime goes up when guns are legal? Since when do criminals used registered guns? Gun accidents might go up, or the number of people shot in 'self defense', or maybe the use of guns in violent crime, or the proportion of violent crimes resulting in fatalities... wouldn't it make more sense to focus on those statistics? I don't believe that Stossel, or his producers, are this dumb. I believe they ran the story which would get the best ratings.. without regard to anything it might do to shape public opinion.

Yogisays...

>> ^Buck:

hey Yogi, Harvard study good enough for ya?
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMaus
eronline.pdf
The study, which just appeared in Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy (pp. 649-694), set out to answer the question in its title: "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence." Contrary to conventional wisdom, and the sniffs of our more sophisticated and generally anti-gun counterparts across the pond, the answer is "no." And not just no, as in there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime, but an emphatic no, showing a negative correlation: as gun ownership increases, murder and suicide decreases.


Oh really...The Law School of Harvard doesn't want to ban guns how surprising. It's because they produce Lawyers, and they produce Liars. Harvard is the place to go if you don't want to learn anything except how to be a fucking Twat. Thank you Noam Chomsky.

VoodooVsays...

punditry aside, Stossel is right about one thing. criminals, by definition, don't care about gun laws.

I have no problem with gun ownership. I have a problem with the cowboy mentality that infects the zealots. It's the cowboy mentality that is what get people killed when you have a gun to compensate for other inadequacies.

It's a gun, not a codpiece.

Hanover_Phistsays...

" In America, it has been, for so long now, the belief that guns designed to kill people indifferently and in great numbers can be widely available and not have it end with people being killed, indifferently and in great numbers. The argument has gotten dully repetitive: How does one argue with someone convinced that the routine massacre of our children is the price we must pay for our freedom to have guns, or rather to have guns that make us feel free?"
-Adam Gopnik (New Yorker)

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