houston and harris ftw.
this was excellent on so many levels.
shermer and deepok should just make out and get it over with.secret lovers..sheesh...
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Sam Harris in top form here, not letting Deepok get away with anything which leaves him with basically nothing!

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>> ^PalmliX:

Sam Harris in top form here, not letting Deepok get away with anything which leaves him with basically nothing!


i would not go as far as to say deepok had nothing but i will say that to have a productive discussion you first have to define the terms.

in that regard deepok failed and became quite defensive and combatative while harris was on point once those terms were defined.

i am not usually a harris fan.he tends to get caught up on the religious aspect of the metaphysical discussions but here he let that go fairly early and..in my opinion..was able to better express himself without all the butthurt.

i have to be careful when i criticize harris here on the sift.the fanboys are pretty fanatical in their devotion.

o ZING!

deepak drives me nuts. such a vile charlatan.

Atheists believe order comes from chaos.

How do you defend that?

Certainly not by reading children's stories meant to scare simpletons into conformance. Observation, hypothesis, prediction, experiment, conclusion.>> ^lantern53:

Atheists believe order comes from chaos.
How do you defend that?

Someone messed up the audio on the transfer. It's peaking and distorting... very distracting and frustrating to listen to. Great sift, though!

Ugh, I really wanted to watch this, but that ridiculous and most annoying clown Deepok just made it impossible for me.

>> ^KnivesOut:

Certainly not by reading children's stories meant to scare simpletons into conformance. Observation, hypothesis, prediction, experiment, conclusion.>> ^lantern53:
Atheists believe order comes from chaos.
How do you defend that?



Many, if not most religious traditions use analogy to explain ultimate truths.

But explain to me how order comes from chaos?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterns_in_nature

Natural selection and mutation over millions of generations in biological systems produces ordered results. On a cosmological scale, physical forces draw bodies into stable relationships. Science can easily explain how these phenomena occur.

But you don't really want answers.

"Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that.">> ^lantern53:

>> ^KnivesOut:
Certainly not by reading children's stories meant to scare simpletons into conformance. Observation, hypothesis, prediction, experiment, conclusion.>> ^lantern53:
Atheists believe order comes from chaos.
How do you defend that?


Many, if not most religious traditions use analogy to explain ultimate truths.
But explain to me how order comes from chaos?

atheists by definition don't "believe" any specific thing.

>> ^lantern53:

Atheists believe order comes from chaos.
How do you defend that?

FF to 17:23 for Harris' incredulous look while Chopra tries to cram linguistic nonsense in his earholes.

I really liked Leonard Molodinov's cameo - he seems quite a good public speaker and quite likeable.