What pisses me off about this video is the "security guards" stand there and watch this girl kick the other girl in the head repeatedly, then let her come back and do it once again. These idiots needs to be fired.

*teens?

Adding video to channels (Teens) - requested by alien_concept.

Maybe she doesn't feel sorry for her daughter, but at least she should feel responsible for her daughter.

Observe and report. I'm sorry to say, but in most cases a Security Officer cannot act; legally without consequences.

You can only use the force continuum to stop felonies. Rape, Assault, Theft, and Murder.

These guys, should have acted but probably did not have proper training to deal with this situation, or had explicit orders to Observe and Report.

I watched it again. They should have done something about this.

So theft and assault, you can use strong physical force to gain control of the situation.

IE: Skip the verbal and soft physical and go straight to pepper spray.

Former Private Security, we were all to ready to act in situations like this.

For anyone who's interested here's the followup to the story.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/22522109/detail.html

I'd like to think that if I were a security guard in that situation I would say to myself "fuck all of the training, I don't care if I lose my job or get sued, I need to help this person". But then again I don't know what it's like to have it drilled into my head that your job is to observe and report violent crimes but never personally intervene.

And the fact that the attacker was backed up by a small gang of males in their teens and 20s gives me some sympathy for the security guards. She might not have been a threat to a an unarmed security guard, but her accomplices were.

Another fact from that article; two police officers had minutes before REFUSED the frightened girl's request to be escorted to the nearby bus tunnel (the one she was attacked in). They did however kick her and the gang that was harassing her out of Macy's and leave it at that. To me that's the real scandal.

There are altogether too many horrible things going on in this video. *Terrible channel justified.

Hate to be the one to say it. Those security guards were actually following company policy. To observe and contact law enforcement, but not to step in the way or be a participant. To that, those individuals followed it to the letter. The tape is damning for the company. I think the mother will have lawyers calling her to get in on the lawsuit. That's an easy few million, if not tens of million. It can also be criminal negilence on the part of the security guards.

The problem with policy in a business is, unless the person puts common sense in to the equation, it has no hope of working. If I was there, either as a passer-by or guard, I would step in the way, and shove the attacker away.

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For anyone who's interested here's the followup to the story.
http://www.kirotv.com/news/22522109/detail.html
I'd like to think that if I were a security guard in that situation I would say to myself "fuck all of the training, I don't care if I lose my job or get sued, I need to help this person". But then again I don't know what it's like to have it drilled into my head that your job is to observe and report violent crimes but never personally intervene.
And the fact that the attacker was backed up by a small gang of males in their teens and 20s gives me some sympathy for the security guards. She might not have been a threat to a an unarmed security guard, but her accomplices were.
Another fact from that article; two police officers had minutes before REFUSED the frightened girl's request to be escorted to the nearby bus tunnel (the one she was attacked in). They did however kick her and the gang that was harassing her out of Macy's and leave it at that. To me that's the real scandal.


There is a strategy for that; Use the most painful force you have at hand on the main assailant as a deterrent to the rest of the group. Have your partners hang back; ready to use their most painful physical force on the next person that comes to the main assailants aid. It is my experience that most mobs are easily deterred when you cause the leader to writhe in pain screaming "My Eyes! They burn!" In case you didn't know pepper spray has an area of effect, as well as a one target non lethal payload, and in closed spaces can incapacitate a whole room full of people.