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Have I not been saying this shit since my stint here began Now that it's presented in a "respectable" TEDTALK, perhaps some of you will begin to wake the fuck up?!!? Food is used as fucking poison by most 1st world countries. Again: To all you ignorant fucking monkeys who think that the U.S., UK, MExico, etc... needs some magical health care system that works for everybody, go fuck yourselves.

Learn to eat righteously and instinctively, and guess what?? Doctors can go about the business of mending broken bones and stitching skin. Cancer rates will plunge. Diabetes will go the way of small pox and cholera.

.....and can we PLEASE legalize homicide??!!

Largely local, largely fresh. Make some laws that fucking matter. Destroy utterly all large agribusiness.
Dow and Monsanto???-Drag the motherfuckers into the square and kill the CEO's in a public fashion. Subsidize only industries that create and produce non-poison....Next phase, destroy pharmaceutical companies and put their CEO's on trial in the Hague, for crimes against humanity....Eugenics is alive and well at McDonalds, Wendy's, and Kentucky Fried Motherfucking Chicken.

Follow the money-For close to 4 centuries, the same fucks who created empire and continue to do so, did it with sugar, slaves, and drug trafficking. They are still in the same business, and the business of disinformation and propaganda tinctured with faulty programming trough public "education" , is the major culprit...that and the complicity of those who fancy themselves intelligent who are products of the abortion called, "university."

Can we expect the shit to change anytime soon??? Fuck no.....Oh well...MORE ROOM FOR ME!!!

Jamie Oliver just went from a mockney TV chef to a hero in my eyes.

There are so, so many TV chefs in the UK who use their fame to do nothing other than fill their own bank accounts. They chase michelin stars and have fancy restaurants all over the place but it's all me me me. Fair play Jamie, he obviously does care, and while I fully understand he's paid very good money to do his TV programs at least he's doing them about the right things. He's found fame and fortune by being good at what he does. He stands out from the crowd in the way he uses that.

I wish more people would do this, then maybe things would change.

Good luck Jamie, I hope it works.

Wow.... I found a topic I agree with Choggie on. Fuck...

I thought choggie was a radical free market person, I guess not.
I really see no big problem with there being fast food. It's the responsibility of parents to eat well and feed their children well. But I guess most people are just to lazy, poor or uneducated.

He has lots of bad points in that speech though.

For one he fails to understand lots of things about food industry. Simply put you can NOT in this day and age go back to provide natural food in everything. The reason you get a big mac for $1 and not $18 is because it's mass produced.

Supple and demand would simply not happen at all in the world he wants.

In fact, if you wanted to make a meal like he wants for every school in america to be healthy, you would simply bankrupt the school because it would send costs skyrocketing (esp when schools now are having a hardtime).

You have to understand, its not simply a matter of food, its a matter of peoples mindset. People in Asia don't think rice and fish are disgusting, because they eat it in lots of meals. In the USA lots of kids don't care for it at all (unless its taco bell for rice and fish sticks in the oven).

For his "utopia" to work, it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, millions of jobs at stake. So yes, we can afford not to do it.

Bid Mac's SHOULD cost $18. Then poor people would not eat them. We cannot afford the cost of meat = deforestation + Global warming. School kids woudl be much better of with less calories and heathier options, plus think of all the jobs in catering for the economy both in school/work and high street. Reverse the strife that the corporations have caused. Local markets and laocal resteraunts.

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>> ^Heartspark:
He has lots of bad points in that speech though.
For one he fails to understand lots of things about food industry. Simply put you can NOT in this day and age go back to provide natural food in everything. The reason you get a big mac for $1 and not $18 is because it's mass produced.
Supple and demand would simply not happen at all in the world he wants.
In fact, if you wanted to make a meal like he wants for every school in america to be healthy, you would simply bankrupt the school because it would send costs skyrocketing (esp when schools now are having a hardtime).
You have to understand, its not simply a matter of food, its a matter of peoples mindset. People in Asia don't think rice and fish are disgusting, because they eat it in lots of meals. In the USA lots of kids don't care for it at all (unless its taco bell for rice and fish sticks in the oven).
For his "utopia" to work, it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, millions of jobs at stake. So yes, we can afford not to do it.


Think about the ACTUAL cost of not doing it. How many lives is it worth to save short-term jobs that could be recreated in other, newer sectors?

>> ^Heartspark:
He has lots of bad points in that speech though.
For one he fails to understand lots of things about food industry. Simply put you can NOT in this day and age go back to provide natural food in everything. The reason you get a big mac for $1 and not $18 is because it's mass produced.
Supple and demand would simply not happen at all in the world he wants.
In fact, if you wanted to make a meal like he wants for every school in america to be healthy, you would simply bankrupt the school because it would send costs skyrocketing (esp when schools now are having a hardtime).
You have to understand, its not simply a matter of food, its a matter of peoples mindset. People in Asia don't think rice and fish are disgusting, because they eat it in lots of meals. In the USA lots of kids don't care for it at all (unless its taco bell for rice and fish sticks in the oven).
For his "utopia" to work, it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, millions of jobs at stake. So yes, we can afford not to do it.


You don't seem to understand the food industry yourself, the fast food isn't just cheap because of mass production, it's because the corn/wheat/soy industries are heavily subsidised by the government. Secondly, you exagerate your numbers, a non mass produced hamburger only costs a few dollars, i can make a healthy burger at home for not much more than a big mac and i'm sure a lunch lady can do just as well as me.

Not sure what your perogative is, but you seem to be on the wrong track, i suggest you educate yourself a little on what real food is, and the reasons Jamie is doing what he is.

>> ^billpayer:
Bid Mac's SHOULD cost $18. Then poor people would not eat them. We cannot afford the cost of meat = deforestation + Global warming. School kids woudl be much better of with less calories and heathier options, plus think of all the jobs in catering for the economy both in school/work and high street. Reverse the strife that the corporations have caused. Local markets and laocal resteraunts.



That would not happen, not even close. What you just described is the exact opposite of what would happen.
More farm land would happen for more crops (more deforestation) because not enough land to grow + harvest organic food for the whole population. Global warming has nothing to do with it, not sure why you even put that in there.

Children DO have a choice, they can bring own meals, they don't have to eat everything on the menu just because it is there. Thats a parents problem, not a food problem. How many families you see today making kids eat veggies during a meal like the did when parents grew up? not many

>> ^ghark:
>> ^Heartspark:
He has lots of bad points in that speech though.
For one he fails to understand lots of things about food industry. Simply put you can NOT in this day and age go back to provide natural food in everything. The reason you get a big mac for $1 and not $18 is because it's mass produced.
Supple and demand would simply not happen at all in the world he wants.
In fact, if you wanted to make a meal like he wants for every school in america to be healthy, you would simply bankrupt the school because it would send costs skyrocketing (esp when schools now are having a hardtime).
You have to understand, its not simply a matter of food, its a matter of peoples mindset. People in Asia don't think rice and fish are disgusting, because they eat it in lots of meals. In the USA lots of kids don't care for it at all (unless its taco bell for rice and fish sticks in the oven).
For his "utopia" to work, it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, millions of jobs at stake. So yes, we can afford not to do it.

You don't seem to understand the food industry yourself, the fast food isn't just cheap because of mass production, it's because the corn/wheat/soy industries are heavily subsidised by the government. Secondly, you exagerate your numbers, a non mass produced hamburger only costs a few dollars, i can make a healthy burger at home for not much more than a big mac and i'm sure a lunch lady can do just as well as me.
Not sure what your perogative is, but you seem to be on the wrong track, i suggest you educate yourself a little on what real food is, and the reasons Jamie is doing what he is.


You missed the whole point. The whole reason from the START is why mass produced food started was because supply and demand could not keep up with making food from organic means. That is why organic food is expensive, it does cost more than mass produced food because more work is needed in the long haul to the store. Try farm grazing cows naturally for 300 million people and then wonder why meat cost you a paycheck each month. Sure you can make a hamburger NOW for the same price as a big mac and its healthier..

You simply can't have mass produced organic food, for healthy meals at home in todays world.

I have nothing against what he is doing, its Nobel and good he is taking a stance naturally. Its simply unrealistic goals..as of now.

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>> ^Heartspark:

You missed the whole point. The whole reason from the START is why mass produced food started was because supply and demand could not keep up with making food from organic means. That is why organic food is expensive, it does cost more than mass produced food because more work is needed in the long haul to the store. Try farm grazing cows naturally for 300 million people and then wonder why meat cost you a paycheck each month. Sure you can make a hamburger NOW for the same price as a big mac and its healthier..
You simply can't have mass produced organic food, for healthy meals at home in todays world.
I have nothing against what he is doing, its Nobel and good he is taking a stance naturally. Its simply unrealistic goals..as of now.


Uh there are countries that have the climate to graze cows on pasture all year round and meat in them does not cost a monthly paycheck, i should know, i have lived in two (Aus and NZ). Some countries have harsher winters (the UK for example) and need to bring the cattle indoors so they survive the winter months, which is fair enough, it's about being practical. I never said everything had to be organic, that is just an argument you're making to try and sidestep the issue Jamie is talking about, which is that families need to start eating more whole foods in their diet and school lunches.

As far as feeding 300 million people organically, do you have a peice of lawn bigger than a few square feet? Do you have a veranda or balcony that gets the sun? You do realise you that you can create a garden in that space and grow some of you're own food if it really becomes an issue, all you need is water and a little knowledge on gardening - or would you be worried about getting your hands dirty? Feeding the world on organic food was never and will never be the issue, the problem is that people take the route of least resistance and would prefer to just get all their food at one place - the supermarket.

It is cheaper to buy staples in bulk, fresh vegetables and meats, fresh eggs and dairy, when one completely eliminates frozen, processed, artificial and sugar-laden foods from your shopping cart.


If you go the extra mile, and eliminate ignorance of kitchen chemistry, the ignorance and stupefaction by design caused by media programming and corporate agendas, you begin to get a clearer picture of a world that can sustain-(Did I mention videogames?? Fuck those as well, you 20-somethings could have played more out of doors, studied music, learned some life skills, instead most are self-absorbed, ineffectual, robotoids.

The direction we are headed as a world is quite bleak otherwise, with quality of life available to the vigilant few.

Stop poisoning your bodies with food.

I wish everybody could see this. Especially people with children.

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>> ^cybrbeast:
I thought choggie was a radical free market person, I guess not.
I really see no big problem with there being fast food. It's the responsibility of parents to eat well and feed their children well. But I guess most people are just to lazy, poor or uneducated.


I am radical free-market cyberbeast-the world of the now resembles nothing akin to a free market economy, the definition most wankers understand it as is a theoretical concept at best, as every country on the planet has been groomed to march in lock-step to something completely removed from such a noble idea. Supply and demand can only work when masses of monkeys are not constantly indoctrinated by corporate fucks and bombarded with lies and deceit by a geopolitical machine which works to concentrate resources and labor to benefit the few-The so-called new world order or future of mankind or whatever the fuck you wanna call being herded into cattle cars involves a few people controlling the vast majority of well-groomed imbeciles, who have been taught from the cradle to follow orders-The only country who is not willing to necessarily follow the European Aristocratic/Corporate model is China, but they have a small group of criminals there who would that they be worshiped as gods as well-it's simply not occidental.

In an actual "free market", there is no bullshit-I give you a "dollar" or some service, entertainment, or product, you compensate me in-kind. I can deal in arms, cocoa, opium, cotton-candy, pussy, or whatever the fuck I care to taking whatever risk or leisure there is is involved, and I answer to no-one but natural law-more of a free-market anarchist if you will.

By all means, make as many laws as you care to regarding commerce or the exchange of goods and services: The wise man will prosper who is willing to risk all or nothing to accomplish his will within any system-only abrupt changes from outside of contrived systems will help the individual at this point in history...like maybe a comet or some worldwide upheaval.

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Jamie did a similar thing here in the UK (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie's_School_Dinners ), and proved that it was possible to work with the school kitchens and very tight budgets (just 37 pence per child!) to completely change the food landscape in schools. It wasn't easy, but the change has started.

I admire Jamie for the same reasons robbersdog cites - he's using his fame and fortune to make the world a better place. This is not his first venture into this territory, but he deserves recognition for the work and passion he has.

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