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Supreme Court ruling on Donald Trump immunity

bobknight33says...

@newtboy

Again you have been lied to by the fake news and Democrat party.

Sadly this had to go to the Supreme court just to reiterate the oblivious. When will you learn -- you are always being lied to about Trump.



SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.
From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

newtboysays...

Lied to? How so….be specific.

😂 Reiterate the oblivious 😂….um…yes. The oblivious felon did make this claim first, the oblivious “justices” did reiterate.

So why is Trump celebrating like he just got a get out of jail free card?


This is not how it’s always been, before this ruling official acts still had to be lawful…not anymore. As long as they’re official acts, they are legal (as far as penalties are concerned) no matter what the law says. That’s what they ruled.
Edit: They did not give the disgraced ex president his claimed total immunity however…if the courts decide fomenting a coup was not an official presidential act, or falsifying documents for fake electors is not an official president’s act, or secretly pressuring a governor to “find” 11000+ votes is not an official presidential act, or taking and withholding classified state secrets and lying about having them to the FBI and actively hiding them from warranted searches after he was no longer president are not official presidential acts, then he still has some serious legal trouble to add to whatever happens next week at his sentencing.

As long as the President is using official powers, what he uses them for cannot be questioned. Biden could assassinate Trump like he claims Biden tried to do 100% legally now, and Thomas, and Alito, and the other corrupt “justices” that invalidated a long cherished institution for money, and anyone he thinks threatens America…100% immune because protecting the nation is a Presidential duty.
Fortunately Trump tried to hide most of his crimes by using unofficial orders to non governmental agents through unofficial channels, so he’s got an uphill climb to argue they are official acts.
The issues listed in the dissent are not extreme or hypothetical, they are in fact campaign promises by the convicted felon and terrorist leader and specific examples argued by the Trump lawyers as things that are (now) legal…like assassination of a political rival.
The court just couldn’t help but try to minimize its extremist ruling that upends 248 years of the rule of law and puts the president above the law when using presidential powers (like assassinations, or cancelling elections, jailing political rivals, disbanding the border patrol, etc.) by calling threats made by those who have followed through on those exact same threats before “fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals"
The president refusing to accept the election results and trying to seize or hold onto power illegally was one example…not extreme or hypothetical or fear mongering, it fucking happened, and this ruling means it may be legal (if considered official).

Biden damn well better make use of this immunity to save democracy or maybe he deserves to lose, he now has carte Blanche to pull anything, absolutely anything as long as he says it’s for America, everything is allowed, nothing is forbidden. I’m worried he has morals and won’t use these new unlimited assassination and coup powers…very worried. I know for an absolute certainty that the other guy doesn’t.

bobknight33said:

@newtboy

Again you have been lied to by the fake news and Democrat party.

Sadly this had to go to the Supreme court just to reiterate the oblivious. When will you learn -- you are always being lied to about Trump.



SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.
From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

newtboysays...

From his Supreme Court hearing-
“No one is above the law, that’s a foundational principal I’ve talked about coming from Federalist 69, coming from the structure of the constitution. We are all equal under the law in the United States Of America.
The foundation of our constitution was, as Hamilton explained in Federalist 69, “the Presidency would not be a monarchy” and it specified all the ways under the constitution the president is not above the law, no one is above the law in the United States of America.”
“The president is subject to the law, no one is above the law in the United States of America including the president of the United States and that’s something that is made clear in Federalist 69.
Even in a national security context where the constitution gives the commander in chief power to the president, the president remains subject to the law. The president is not above the law with respect to the criminal process.”
“No one is above the law in our constitutional system. Federalist 69, Hamilton, makes clear all the ways that the executive branch as designed by the framers of the constitution was different from the monarchy.” - Kavenaugh

Now that he’s hearing the case- “The president is not subject to the law, and is not only above the law both criminal and civil when performing official duties, but any actions claimed to have been performed as official duties may not be used as evidence or even investigated, even in cases where they broke the law unofficially outside any possible official duty, no matter how exculpatory or illegal those official actions were (like murdering a witness (Epstein)), and if the president so chooses they may convert to a monarchy at their whim, so long as they claim it’s official.”

This is a complete 180 from what he said at his confirmation, just like Barrett claiming at her confirmation Supreme Court precedent was settled law not to be revisited then revisiting and reversing dozens of decades old precedents.

SCOTUS is invalid so long as those on it believe they are above the law and allowed to sell judgements to the highest bidder, something every single right wing justice but no Left wing justice has been PROVEN to have done, some to the tune of tens of millions….and lied on sworn statements about it for decades too.

bobknight33said:

SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.

From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

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