That dude at the end was awesome haha. Nice Vid.

I am soooo glad that this isnt even a slight issue in Canada. America, you better get on this, really. It could lead to alot of trouble for your country.

'gnashing of teeth!', Beware non-believers! Repent!

LOL

Well, in reference to the fellow with the gray goatee, name-calling is the wrong approach. I've always based my atheism on the following two things:

1) There are a hundred ancient gods which have all been discarded: Thor, Zeus, Isis, Apollo, Osirus, et al. Why?

2) Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity, and Muslim each claim their writings are the word of god. They cannot all be right. They can, however, all be wrong.

p.s. I'm American. Living in the south.

Gets my (up)vote, I have seen alot on this so called "Museum" and frankly its just bloody insulting, Science has to have proof of theory, Religion simply requires Acceptance, and the bit that made me cringe most : "The Alternate World Without the Scriptures"

As we say in England, what a load of old bollocks.

Believe what you will, but in one way or another it can be incredibly damaging as the guy at the end pointed out

Wow ... just wow. I would like to visit the US one day just because it seem so surreal.

wow i hate ken ham

@wjolson,
The Big Valley Creation Science Museum and Creation Truth Ministries Travelling Museum in Alberta are not nearly the same scale, but you're not quite out of the woods yet.

@Devicrom,
If you think a nutty religious "museum", built by a theme park designer, in Kentucky of all places, represents the status quo in America, you've been reading too many tabloids.

what is WRONG with these people? Mass lobotomies?

One day, one day I will go to that museum. And I will be wearing this shirt and it will be a wonderful day to behold. My coworkers have expressed concern for my physical well-being should I ever go there, with or without that shirt, nonetheless.

Gotta love the guy with the Christian HillBilly hat. I guess if you know you don't have two brain cells to rub together you might as well proclaim it to the world with pride.

^ A sucker is "born-again" every minute
lol
goatee man sounds like joe pesci (sp?)

OH NOES! Teh Christianz are coming! They're going to ruin this nation!
What? They've been around for almost 2,000 years? And the country has thrived the entire time?
Oh. My bad.

Seriously - just because someone opens a creation museum does NOT mean that the world is coming to an end. Grow the fuck up.

I did laugh at the portion of "What the world would be like without God" - shouldn't that part of the museum be empty?

Oh, and channel assignments are not for personal religious beliefs. *nochannel *religion *wtf *terrible

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Pretending that Canada doesn't have a ton of Christians who don't believe in evolution is silly; the percentage of them is likely on par with America. I know plenty of them, but I don't see them as terrorist threats or nation-destroyers (their numbers are no doubt lower than they've ever been).

What I don't understand is most of them refuse to consider that Christianity and evolution are not mutually exclusive. It's like blasphemy to even consider that notion.

>> ^shuac:
Well, in reference to the fellow with the gray goatee, name-calling is the wrong approach. I've always based my atheism on the following two things:
1) There are a hundred ancient gods which have all been discarded: Thor, Zeus, Isis, Apollo, Osirus, et al. Why?


There's also other religions that are all but forgotten now, too. Zoroastrianism for example. Zoroaster was the first man to (allegedly)go out in to the desert and get the idea for "One god, One devil" who would do battle for however many years, 12,000 I believe it was. Zoroaster was born of a virgin mother, started his own religion (Zoroastrianism) and was a man with long brown hair, and a beard. Basically the modern interpretation of Jesus.

The kicker is, Zoroaster was born first. Then in the timeline of religions, Buddha was the next to be born, again of a virgin mother, started his own religion after getting some spiritual beliefs.

Then came Christianity. with its virgin birth..again.. with a son who had his own beliefs, again.

It's basically stories like these, that make it hard for me to believe in any religion. I'm not an athiest, more agnostic then anything. But i'm still a firm believer in evolution, and this museum is just a sick way of trying to warp the minds of younger children.

That entire room without god, all i was able to make out for the most part was
a bunch of magazines with "Gay" in the title.

Its fascinating to hear Christians talk about what the founding fathers wanted for this country and what America was suppose to be. How did it become so bass ackwards that a country founded partly on escaping some of the "organized" religions of Europe become so hell bent and obsessed with it. Yes they were Christian but didnt want to become what organized religion is today. In the beginning there was much violence towards Catholics for example, we didnt want them in this country cause thats what we were trying to get away from and some how they got in (through Rhode Island if I remember correctly) and now the "organized" part of it all is the dominate factor in this country today. One thing I do want to make clear though is people need to stop calling these people hicks, rednecks, hill billies, ignorant southerners, and so on. If you honestly believe its all the souths fault, that the 49% of the country that does not believe in Evolution all live in the south then you are delusional. I have lived all over the US and there are a ton of these people in northern states too. I just dont like the old fall back of "it must be southern" if anything moronic or ignorant happens when just as much happens everywhere else. We just like focusing on the south more ever since the civil war, like some strange belittling superiority complex that our culture does to permanently create the image of the white trash southerner.

I don't believe in any indoctrinated religion. But God is neither provable or disprovable. People who do believe in God should not refute one another's God. This is the major fallacy of many religions. We must respect each one's will and freedom to believe in their idea of God - intolerance only breeds destruction and evil ensues worldwide as proven by history.

The problem I find with religion lies in interpretation and the interpreters and sometimes the very tomes they believe in. No one should ever think their "truth" is the only truth - in this world - there are many truths. As people in a world with many ideas we should strive to respect all "truths" if they are of a peaceful nature.

The man in the video by saying the Christians sacred document is "bullshit" becomes no better than the cause he wishes to dismantle. We need to spread the message of tolerance and education of what intolerance breeds. These people are difficult to stave off - by also being narrow-minded with simpleton insults we only fuel destructive intolerance.

I sincerely doubt that 50% of the Canadian Electorate believes in Creationism, but I'll certainly look it up.

>> ^Xax:
Pretending that Canada doesn't have a ton of Christians who don't believe in evolution is silly; the percentage of them is likely on par with America. I know plenty of them, but I don't see them as terrorist threats or nation-destroyers (their numbers are no doubt lower than they've ever been).
What I don't understand is most of them refuse to consider that Christianity and evolution are not mutually exclusive. It's like blasphemy to even consider that notion.

Awesome video. I count myself lucky I live in a mostly godless country. Its a comfort to know not only that Americans do oppose such an insane "museum", but also that high school kids had the ability to make a video that does the reporting of Fox News and the like to shame.

"World without God" is an idiotic exhibit for a creation museum. If they're so super-zealous, then they should LOGICALLY show like a dark void or something - showing that without God there is Nothing. Just showing a "crazy/evil" world just shows a world where people are "bad/evil" - uh, that's something completely different. Good video, and good for them for exposing the *lies present all around - on BOTH sides of the issue.
@MarineGunrock - there's idiotic arguments on both sides, which is why I'm reinstating the channel.

>> ^shuac:
... Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity, and Muslim each claim their writings are the word of god. They cannot all be right.

Um, host a conversation with members of these faiths. You'll note that we agree that it's the same God!

<preachy>
Just a matter of interpretation on a few details, for the core message (seek truth, love God and others as you love yourself) is essentially the same.

Even morally good atheists essentially act the same way and as such, will also go to heaven when they die.
</preachy [well, a little more in the next response...]>

>> ^Xax:

What I don't understand is most of them refuse to consider that Christianity and evolution are not mutually exclusive. It's like blasphemy to even consider that notion.

Juh? I had to re-read that carefully because of the number of grammatical negatives - I would've argued that, from an American fundamentalist perspective, it may be hard to understand why most Christians in Canada (I'm speaking from the biassed viewpoint of a Catholic - but then, WE'RE the majority!) "refuse to consider that Christianity and evolution are mutually exclusive."

This idea of separating the two is idiotic and anyone who believes in it is, in all probability, actually a member of a heretical sect that has broken away from the on true and holy Catholic Apostolic church, and is therefore a member of a Christian fringe group. I'd prefer that you don't lump in freaks who believe in this sort of thing with normal Christians, just like how we hope you won't lump all Islamic extremist types with normal peace-loving Muslims.

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According to the 2001 census,[76] 77.1% of Canadians identify as being Christians; of this, Catholics make up the largest group (43.6% of Canadians).

Fact to support above demographic claim.

Thank you and good night.

I thought about posting a long detailed comment of how I feel about this video and the people in it. But I can sum up my feelings fairly well in just two words:

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>> ^Krupo:
According to the 2001 census,[76] 77.1% of Canadians identify as being Christians; of this, Catholics make up the largest group (43.6% of Canadians).
Fact to support above demographic claim.
Thank you and good night.


But do those 77.1% believe in absolute seriousness that the world is less than 6,000 years old and that Jesus is definitely coming back in the next 50ish years?

Not every Christian believes the Earth is less than 6,000 years old and that the rapture is in the next 50 years. Don't make stupid generalizations. In fact, the minority of Christians are young-Earthers

agreed.
i really don't buy that YEC are anywhere near as numerous,
as they themselves would love to have everyone believe.

most christians are not YEC. not by a longshot.

most are just too polite, or too timid, to openly
confront how shitty an idea it is, to base the age of a planet
on the theoretical ages of biblical characters.

Funny how the world without God actually looks like the real world.

I present two articles for your perusual:

New Scientist: Why Doesn't America Believe in Evolution?

CBS: Poll - Majority Reject Evolution (from 2005, but still... that's only two three years ago).

I don't think anyone has generalized that ALL Christians don't believe in Evolution, however, the majority appear to not accept (belief is a word not suited for evolution, for it is fact, it should be accepted, not "believed") that all creatures great and small have evolved over time.

Oh, and to the "World without God", I'm pretty sure it would look, oh I don't know, JUST AS IT DOES RIGHT THIS MINUTE. Of course, should homo sapiens have evolved not ever thinking there were Gods, there might be some nicer things to hear about here and there in the world.

Edit: In regards to my previous comment I was being slightly sarcastic. While there might be an overwhelming Christian presence in my country of Canada, of course not all of them believe in Christ's return, or a 6,000 year old earth/universe. My uncle is a Presbyterian and fully accepts evolution as fact, and he's probably my most favourite relative, very knowledgeable and funny as hell. No pun intended.

>> ^Krupo:
"World without God" is an idiotic exhibit for a creation museum. If they're so super-zealous, then they should LOGICALLY show like a dark void or something - showing that without God there is Nothing.

Note my previous comment here.