"I laugh when I'm scared too."

YouTube: Stephen won't rest until the media doesn't release reports that that non-existent reports on the Bowling Green attacks that did not occur.
transmorphersays...

A blatantly lying tyrannical government, travel bans and a wall. I'm starting to think this is another sequel to Escape From New York acted out in real life.

articiansays...

Unfortunately there have been a couple events in Europe that were largely perpetrated by immigrants (and the desire to not stir up more racial-hate was one reason the government pressured the media to not report them). The ones in Germany kind of give Trump the only example he needs to make one of his vague, ignorant claims, in this case, even though he's clearly just spouting his usual dipshittery here.

transmorphersays...

A couple.... is an bit of an understatement, we're talking a 1500% rape increase in Sweden over the last 20 years, which are disproportionately committed by immigrants.

And this was before 2015's mass wave of immigrants started to come into Germany.

To deny that there is a valid correlation between immigration and crime is just as ignorant as any of Trumps policies. Possibly more because it's coming from people who are far smarter than Trump.

articiansaid:

Unfortunately there have been a couple events in Europe that were largely perpetrated by immigrants (and the desire to not stir up more racial-hate was one reason the government pressured the media to not report them). The ones in Germany kind of give Trump the only example he needs to make one of his vague, ignorant claims, in this case, even though he's clearly just spouting his usual dipshittery here.

hazmat22says...

Can I ask where you got your info on the rape crisis in Sweden exactly?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-rape-crisis-isnt-what-it-seems/article30019623/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

Last week the G&M reported that here in Canada 1 in 5 sexual assault claims are filed as baseless and never investigated. Back in 2005 Sweden started expanding their definition of rape and working on ways to avoid issues like we're having, such as people not reporting it and people who report it being ignored.

So you broaden the definition of rape to protect more people (the infirm was a major one for them), make it far more socially acceptable to report it and stop turning away victims and surprise surprise you get more reported rapes.

There are many times that statistics are used to misinform us or to cast a certain light on topic, "How to Lie with Statistics" is a great book for learning more.

transmorphersaid:

A couple.... is an bit of an understatement, we're talking a 1500% rape increase in Sweden over the last 20 years, which are disproportionately committed by immigrants.

And this was before 2015's mass wave of immigrants started to come into Germany.

To deny that there is a valid correlation between immigration and crime is just as ignorant as any of Trumps policies. Possibly more because it's coming from people who are far smarter than Trump.

newtboyjokingly says...

People can come up with statistics to prove anything, forfty percent of all people know that.

hazmat22said:

Can I ask where you got your info on the rape crisis in Sweden exactly?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-rape-crisis-isnt-what-it-seems/article30019623/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

Last week the G&M reported that here in Canada 1 in 5 sexual assault claims are filed as baseless and never investigated. Back in 2005 Sweden started expanding their definition of rape and working on ways to avoid issues like we're having, such as people not reporting it and people who report it being ignored.

So you broaden the definition of rape to protect more people (the infirm was a major one for them), make it far more socially acceptable to report it and stop turning away victims and surprise surprise you get more reported rapes.

There are many times that statistics are used to misinform us or to cast a certain light on topic, "How to Lie with Statistics" is a great book for learning more.

transmorphersays...

Regardless of how broad the definition of rape is, it's still disproportionately committed by immigrants, and not just rape, all crime - which was the point I was making, that there is a correlation between immigration and crime.

I got the stats from here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9yjrqtWG0


Also your linked Global Mail article states "Refugee shelters are terrible, dangerous places, whoever is in them". LOL if living in a camp is so dangerous, it's down to the people living there right? Tents don't commit crime.

Actually that author has interpreted the statistics with what is called survivor bias.

EDIT: also the global article has some very good comments by C.Ben and vikki 4U

hazmat22said:

Can I ask where you got your info on the rape crisis in Sweden exactly?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-rape-crisis-isnt-what-it-seems/article30019623/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

Last week the G&M reported that here in Canada 1 in 5 sexual assault claims are filed as baseless and never investigated. Back in 2005 Sweden started expanding their definition of rape and working on ways to avoid issues like we're having, such as people not reporting it and people who report it being ignored.

So you broaden the definition of rape to protect more people (the infirm was a major one for them), make it far more socially acceptable to report it and stop turning away victims and surprise surprise you get more reported rapes.

There are many times that statistics are used to misinform us or to cast a certain light on topic, "How to Lie with Statistics" is a great book for learning more.

newtboysays...

Not in America. Our crime stats show that immigrants, even illegal immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes than citizens (if you omit the crime of illegal entry). Foreign born (legal and illegal combined) had an incarceration rate of around .7% while citizens are incarcerated at about 3.5% (both stats for men age 18-39 from a 2007 study)

I would counter that refugee camps are mostly dangerous places because they are relatively unregulated warehouses for disparate, desperate people with little opportunity for education, work, and often food and water. Limit those things, jam differing populations together without any meaningful law enforcement and the population will become dangerous every time, no matter who they are. Desperate anarchistic struggles for survival usually do that to people. Well run camps that offered opportunities and some security to those living there have been far less dangerous places historically.

transmorphersaid:

Regardless of how broad the definition of rape is, it's still disproportionately committed by immigrants, and not just rape, all crime - which was the point I was making, that there is a correlation between immigration and crime.

I got the stats from here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9yjrqtWG0


Also your linked Global Mail article states "Refugee shelters are terrible, dangerous places, whoever is in them". LOL if living in a camp is so dangerous, it's down to the people living there right? Tents don't commit crime.

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