Star Citizen Extended Trailer

How many space sim / Wing Commander junkies do we have out there?

I have dumped so much money into this game already, but Chris Roberts and the Wing Commander franchise have given me so many hours of entertainment, I couldn't not help fund this.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/
VoodooVsays...

Don't hold your breath waiting for TIE Fighter. As far as the rest of the industry is concerned, the space sim genre is dead. Doubt Lucasarts would ever give up the IP to let it be crowdfunded.

ChaosEnginesays...

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this. Planning on upgrading my pc early next year so I can play it in maximum shininess.

Anyone else think this would be awesome with an oculus?

*related=http://videosift.com/video/Star-Citizen-launch-trailer

jmdsays...

Looks bad. Really I thought it was a fan made EVE trailer. Also it kind of breaks a rule of good design, SPACE ships have no need for wings. Unless you have your engines mounted on them or they are carrying massive weapons, it just makes you a bigger target and there is no atmosphere in space.

Jaersays...

I'm pretty sure Lucas Arts no longer holds that IP with the acquisition by Disney.

VoodooVsaid:

Don't hold your breath waiting for TIE Fighter. As far as the rest of the industry is concerned, the space sim genre is dead. Doubt Lucasarts would ever give up the IP to let it be crowdfunded.

ChaosEnginesays...

Er, they all do.

Plus, it's a game about dog fighting in space. Realism already went out the window (anyone advanced enough to be that deep in space will not have squishy meatbags controlling their ships)

jmdsaid:

Unless you have your engines mounted on them or they are carrying massive weapons

Lowensays...

It's a space dogfighting game, so there is atmosphere in space, or at least it controls like it is. The human spaceships are supposed to look something like WW2 era fighter planes, since that's what this game is about, WW2 dogfighting in space.

You can even see what could be atmospheric maneuvering controls on one of the ships at the 4 minute mark. Wings or rudders or something wiggling about.

As for realism, there's much worse lapses here than just "omg spaceships with wings!". You could put wings on a spaceship for practical purposes, to make a spaceplane like the space shuttle. Or for decoration. But then you get things like the really fast military fighters have a top speed much lower than C, they can turn and kill their old inertia as if pushing against air, all the fighting is done at visual ranges under accelerations slow enough for a human to react to (and survive physically), lasers fire discrete, visible, tracer like lines rather than an invisible ray traveling at the speed of light... I'm sure there's more.

jmdsaid:

Looks bad. Really I thought it was a fan made EVE trailer. Also it kind of breaks a rule of good design, SPACE ships have no need for wings. Unless you have your engines mounted on them or they are carrying massive weapons, it just makes you a bigger target and there is no atmosphere in space.

shatterdrosesays...

Um, well, if that's your only complaint . . Wings can actually be useful for a ship that does both atmosphere and space flight. Like the shuttle. It has wings. And it's a space ship . . . of sorts.

Let's see . . . Lasers. Yeah, we've already had lasers debunked as a weapon in space. Unless there's some breakthrough later on. But, that said, it wouldn't be visible as there's no atmosphere to reflect it back to us. It would be traveling at the speed of light.

Explosions would be limited to the amount of oxygen in the ship being destroyed. They wouldn't create sonic waves or sound, or cause the nearby camera to rattle.

Ships wouldn't fly in arcs. That's atmosphere. In space, a ship can turn 180° and still be going the same direction. Babylon 5 is a good example of newtonian physics in action while in space.

Humans wouldn't be flying small ships. It'd kill us. Literally. Unless we have inertial dampeners like in Star Trek, making those turns and twists would destroy our bodies. Just ask a pilot.

Lastly, anyone advanced enough to do FTL and navigate massive star clusters with pinpoint precision who DOESN'T have a targeting system that can predict a ships movements and then fire a at speed of light weapon and destroy it, well, failed somewhere.

Not to mention, we'd use missiles that would self-destruct. Fire a physical projectile at near speed of light velocities and it not hit it target? Well, you may have just fired a bullet that would take out your space base in 1,000 years. It's be fruitless, require tons of energy and end up killing yourself with your own bullet.

But I'm glad we focused on wings. The only thing that has a real legitimate use in space travel.

jmdsaid:

Looks bad. Really I thought it was a fan made EVE trailer. Also it kind of breaks a rule of good design, SPACE ships have no need for wings. Unless you have your engines mounted on them or they are carrying massive weapons, it just makes you a bigger target and there is no atmosphere in space.

entr0pysays...

I think Disney owns the IP, but for now they're outsourcing development of all Star Wars games to EA.

Another X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter is too much to hope for. But DICE could do a great Battlefield style game in the setting. Throw in a few maps that are mostly space battles and that could turn out well.

http://www.ea.com/news/ea-and-disney-team-up-on-new-star-wars-games

ChaosEnginesaid:

Lucasarts doesn't exist any more. Electronic fucking Arse holds the IP.

ChaosEnginesays...

You mean like this one?

Yeah, that would be awesome. But it's EA and therefore Origin and therefore annoying.

And @shatterdrose, agree with all of that. Best description I've ever read of how an actual conflict in deep space might go down is in Iain M. Banks Surface Detail where [spoiler]the battle is replayed in slow motion for a human passenger who doesn't realise it's not in real time until the war ship AI cheerfully says "check out this next bit, I do something awesome here"[/spoiler]

And now I'm reminded that Iain M. Banks is gone and I'm sad

entr0pysaid:

But DICE could do a great Battlefield style game in the setting. Throw in a few maps that are mostly space battles and that could turn out well.

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