Someone Finally Stands Up to Bush

One man, willing to stand up to President Bush for his actions.

And no, it's not a Democratic Congressman.
pipp3355says...

i don't care if he's ashamed or apologetic or any of that... i just want him to be impeached and sent to jail for the rest of his life, preferably under the same conditions of the Guantanamo bay prisoners.

NordlichReitersays...

This guy has balls.

On the other hand, I see bits and pieces of the bush that I voted for when he speaks with out lackeys telling him how to speak.

Like here, he was serious and he was without teleprompter. But he is still wrong.

dannym3141says...

>> ^NordlichReiter:
This guy has balls.
On the other hand, I see bits and pieces of the bush that I voted for when he speaks with out lackeys telling him how to speak.
Like here, he was serious and he was without teleprompter. But he is still wrong.


Serious? He made an embarassingly David-Brent-ish joke when he opened his odious mouth.

I think quite the opposite - that the only thing stopping this idiot, joke, fool of a man from making a worse hash of so many things has been the people around him.

Even aside from the infrastructure, the image of America has suffered so badly. When i was 8 years old, if you'd told me that Britain stood shoulder to shoulder with America, i'd have been proud. But now, i feel like the friend of a bully - along for the ride because i'd rather have him inside my tent pissing out. And half of me wants to say "Fuck you, stop acting like such an asshole" and just take the flak i know i'll get, because he keeps going slightly too far, and people keep going slightly further to accomodate him.

nickreal03says...

I love his comeback. Well... "we disagree on what is correct."

I think all his life people have been giving him what he wanted one way or another. It is pointless to ask such people to understand things such as freedom, the law, or accepting responsibility.

A good example of this is how weeling he is to wiretap people, but when it is his turn to be scrutanise well... it becomes another issue completely.

choggiesays...

So, all you whose comments I downvoted, go fuck yourselves.....
and the one i upvoted, go read his, then watch this again, knowing what you know about how old it is, then ask yourself who controls you......
Assholes do
ones who know how to spin shit, and make you lick the pavement......
Bush is a small-player, so what if he wore out his camera image....we got Obama now, a fresh (insert what may be taken as a racial slur here, so the message is lost to DUMBASSSES!!!!) piece of human garbage to sell us a bill of goods......

biminimsays...

It makes no difference whether or not one person stands up and criticizes the man. He just doesn't care. Nor will he care. I've worked with people like him, as I'm sure many have, and he is one of those semi-sociopathic folks who really cannot begin to internalize any criticism, for to do so would lead him to contemplate many other things in his life that reflect poorly upon him. In the February, 2000, issue of Harper's Magazine, an article by Joe Conason and Kevin Phillips titled, "Notes on a Native Son," laid it all out regarding George W. Bush and his lifetime of failures from which he was rescued by his father and his father's wealthy and influential friends. Every single achievement of Bush's--Yale, Harvard Business School, the oil business, being an owner of the Texas Rangers, governor of Texas, the U.S. Presidency--has been made possible by the connections and influence of his father and his father's friends. He has done nothing on his own. He has nothing of which to be proud. How could you be proud if you had never been able to accomplish anything, anything, in your life without the shadow of your father looming over you? Some say that is one of the reasons why he blundered ahead with the Iraq War--so that he could escape his father's shadow, do something his dad didn't do, and be successful on his own terms. Well, he failed.
Look at how he chuckles, hitches up his shoulders, looks down at his supporters in the front row. He doesn't give a shit. That's why he won't apologize for anything. He'll never apologize, never say he's sorry, never admit to a mistake. That kind of person never does.

thinker247says...

I know he doesn't care. We ALL know he doesn't care. But what makes this special to me is that someone spoke to the President's face and held back no punches. Even with the shitty reply Bush gave, he still had at least one person tell him to his face that his actions were not well-received.

Bush thinks history will judge him the most worthy of Presidents, who stood in the face of terror and never backed down. This one man let the President know that history will judge him as the worst President, who stood in the face of terror and showed it HE COULD BE MORE TERRORIZING. And for that, alone, I applaud this one man. As isolated as the incident was, at least there was one.

>> ^Biminim:
It makes no difference whether or not one person stands up and criticizes the man. He just doesn't care. Nor will he care. I've worked with people like him, as I'm sure many have, and he is one of those semi-sociopathic folks who really cannot begin to internalize any criticism, for to do so would lead him to contemplate many other things in his life that reflect poorly upon him. In the February, 2000, issue of Harper's Magazine, an article by Joe Conason and Kevin Phillips titled, "Notes on a Native Son," laid it all out regarding George W. Bush and his lifetime of failures from which he was rescued by his father and his father's wealthy and influential friends. Every single achievement of Bush's--Yale, Harvard Business School, the oil business, being an owner of the Texas Rangers, governor of Texas, the U.S. Presidency--has been made possible by the connections and influence of his father and his father's friends. He has done nothing on his own. He has nothing of which to be proud. How could you be proud if you had never been able to accomplish anything, anything, in your life without the shadow of your father looming over you? Some say that is one of the reasons why he blundered ahead with the Iraq War--so that he could escape his father's shadow, do something his dad didn't do, and be successful on his own terms. Well, he failed.
Look at how he chuckles, hitches up his shoulders, looks down at his supporters in the front row. He doesn't give a shit. That's why he won't apologize for anything. He'll never apologize, never say he's sorry, never admit to a mistake. That kind of person never does.

MINKsays...

NOTE TO ANYONE WHO GETS A MICROPHONE IN FRONT OF ONE OF THESE CUNTS:

keep it short. ask one impossible question such as "When did Iraq attack the United States of America?" or "How much oil is in Rwanda?" or "Does the Islamic Republic of Pakistan have nuclear weapons?" and then sit down.

PLEASE.

i don't know who's more stupid, bush, or the people who keep blowing every opportunity to throw a soundbite back at him.

MINKsays...

^it's not hard to handle the weakest verbal attack in the universe if you command the most devastating army on earth and the entire audience is on your side. it also helps if you have a psychopathic/retarded ability to ignore facts.

quantumushroomsays...

Still hating Bush? You've never met the man, you've never read anything about him other than opinions by liberals in their massive media machine which they deny is biased and some one-liners on comedy shows...fucking COMEDY shows, that's the extent of your being informed. There has to be some media magic at work otherwise how is an empty suit like Obama still a viable candidate?

If Bush is "stupid", even with test scores higher than Frenchy Kerry's, then it's a very poor reflection on your taxocrats in Congress that they DANCE to his tune; most Bush legislation has passed handily and easily.

Other than the usual fringe kooks and commies trying to look respectable, I've witnessed no real loss of freedom for the average American, with the exception of massive government expansion, which is what liberals want anyway.

Liberals create their own false image of who Bush is then make a show of tearing it down. Meanwhile, in the real world, there have been no attacks on American soil since 9-11 and Iraq has free elections.

The man is far from perfect and certainly no more than a quarter conservative, but he ain't the jive turkey Uncle Liberal be laying down.

Kudos to the NPR milktoast for speaking his mind. If he hadn't...we'd never know he was an NPR milktoast.

11807says...

The government should have contracted Bill Gates to develop the phone tapping software.

"Then when I handed her a drink she...

*beep*
*The government wants to listen to this conversation...
Press 1 to allow...
press 2 to deny..."
*beep*

"Still there? Ok, so anyway..."

dannym3141says...

>> ^quantumushroom:
Still hating Bush? You've never met the man, you've never read anything about him other than opinions by liberals


Stopped taking you seriously there.

Do you genuinely want me to believe that Bush is actually incredibly intelligent but there is a huge scheme (even at his own conferences and interviews) subscribed to by thousands of people worldwide, elaborately concealed and orchestrated to hide every shred of evidence that the man is intelligent?

There'd have to be 1 million hours of footage of him being intelligent to countermand all the evidence that he's a buffoon. People have been following, listening, recording and filming him for what, 8 years? And most of what we have as a record of him is him talking bullshit or making an idiot of himself

"If Bush is "stupid", even with test scores higher than Frenchy Kerry's, then it's a very poor reflection on your taxocrats in Congress that they DANCE to his tune; most Bush legislation has passed handily and easily."
-- A number of things here. Firstly, you're under the impression that George Bush comes up with every single thing that passes, becomes law, or is an ethic that his administration works toward. Secondly, you appear to also be under the impression that "Congress" (i am not american) is free of interpersonal politics, bias, or policy-buying. It'd be the first governmental body that was in the history of this planet. Thirdly, you're arguing that Bush must be intelligent because people follow him, which is the biggest error of judgement. I don't think i need to elaborate here. This is not an argument in favour of bush being intelligent. Whatsoever.

"Liberals create their own false image of who Bush is then make a show of tearing it down. Meanwhile, in the real world, there have been no attacks on American soil since 9-11 and Iraq has free elections."
-- There were no attacks on American soil the first time you pissed off the countries that are currently trying to attack you. It took them 20 years or more, but when they made an attack, they made the most devastating terrorist attack ever seen, which affects america and americans and freedom in america (tapping phones, torture) years and years after the event. Comments like this are the reason why americans are viewed as stupid.

Your argument is so easy to demolish it's not even challenging. Or maybe i'm a liberal building you up to be something you're not and then making a show of knocking you down.

Maybe, but you put your bullshit up there to be interpreted, and i "interpretated" it. Bushism ftw. BTW i'm english, i have no "liberal" or "conservative" point of view, i have only my personal opinion. As does everyone else, but you don't seem to be able to accept that.

Irishmansays...

Nobody in America seems to be able to have any kind of opinion outside of the mainstream view without somebody labelling them as a 'liberal' or 'conspiracy theorist' or 'terrorist'.

America ten years ago wasn't like this.

From a purely social point of view, 9/11 has had EXACTLY the same effect on America as the Reichstag fires had on 1930s Germany.

Once I see somebody using the word 'liberal' in response to something, I just switch off, seriously, you can't be more than 12 years old with that kind of mentality.

deadgoonsays...

In a socialist environment; this man would not have had the chance to do this.

This would have been better if Bush wasn't able to point out the government's constitutional right:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Hey, guess what? We all became suspects on a long day in September. Read it carefully. Lawyers are really good at working around the loopholes.

And don't forget. These are the same people that felt the need to repeal the sale of alcohol, the need to implicitly state that blacks and women have the right to vote and an amendment guaranteeing they are paid for there jobs... Just not too much pay if you're a rookie.

thinker247says...

You can say whatever you want about how I don't know the President, but I don't need to be his golfing buddy to understand what type of a person he is. He hasn't been misconstrued by the media for eight years, to make him look bad.

"Misunderestimated" would be a better word, since it's Bush's word. But you'd probably just say that was a liberal conspiracy to make him look stupid. Because if we make him look stupid, then we can mock his policies. But you have it backward. We don't mock his stupidity in order to mock his policies. We look at his policies and think, "Those are really fucking stupid." So we assume that the man creating all of these terrible policies must be stupid. If he's not an idiot, then he must be a sociopath. No reasonable person would start a pre-emptive war in a sovereign nation, then brag about how well it's going while the entire nation devolves into a civil war. But, oh yeah, I forgot that was a liberal bias, too. Everything bad is a liberal bias, and everything good is the truth, right? Because that doesn't sound like a bias, in and of itself. Not at all.

Also, I am yet another person who hates Bush, who didn't vote for Kerry or Gore. And I'm not voting for Obama, either. I hate the Democrats in Congress, and I've already explained that to you before. I hate all politicians right now, because they either have no spine or they run rampant, with no thought to what their actions will bring. There is absolutely no middle ground in American politics, and it's disgusting.

...But I guess I'm just a liberal bias, right?

>> ^quantumushroom:
Still hating Bush? You've never met the man, you've never read anything about him other than opinions by liberals in their massive media machine which they deny is biased and some one-liners on comedy shows...fucking COMEDY shows, that's the extent of your being informed. There has to be some media magic at work otherwise how is an empty suit like Obama still a viable candidate?
If Bush is "stupid", even with test scores higher than Frenchy Kerry's, then it's a very poor reflection on your taxocrats in Congress that they DANCE to his tune; most Bush legislation has passed handily and easily.
Other than the usual fringe kooks and commies trying to look respectable, I've witnessed no real loss of freedom for the average American, with the exception of massive government expansion, which is what liberals want anyway.
Liberals create their own false image of who Bush is then make a show of tearing it down. Meanwhile, in the real world, there have been no attacks on American soil since 9-11 and Iraq has free elections.
The man is far from perfect and certainly no more than a quarter conservative, but he ain't the jive turkey Uncle Liberal be laying down.
Kudos to the NPR milktoast for speaking his mind. If he hadn't...we'd never know he was an NPR milktoast.

quantumushroomsays...

Do you genuinely want me to believe that Bush is actually incredibly intelligent but there is a huge scheme (even at his own conferences and interviews) subscribed to by thousands of people worldwide, elaborately concealed and orchestrated to hide every shred of evidence that the man is intelligent?

Bush is a lot smarter than the left will ever give him credit for being. And if he's not, it just makes the left look even more incompetent.

There'd have to be 1 million hours of footage of him being intelligent to countermand all the evidence that he's a buffoon. People have been following, listening, recording and filming him for what, 8 years? And most of what we have as a record of him is him talking bullshit or making an idiot of himself.

Trill, he's not a movie star/empty suit like the Obamessiah. He's done well considering the American media is 90% leftist and wants him to fail. At least have the temerity to admit he's never gotten a fair shake from the press, even to oneself.

"If Bush is "stupid", even with test scores higher than Frenchy Kerry's, then it's a very poor reflection on your taxocrats in Congress that they DANCE to his tune; most Bush legislation has passed handily and easily."

-- A number of things here. Firstly, you're under the impression that George Bush comes up with every single thing that passes, becomes law, or is an ethic that his administration works toward. Secondly, you appear to also be under the impression that "Congress" (i am not american) is free of interpersonal politics, bias, or policy-buying. It'd be the first governmental body that was in the history of this planet. Thirdly, you're arguing that Bush must be intelligent because people follow him, which is the biggest error of judgement. I don't think i need to elaborate here. This is not an argument in favour of bush being intelligent. Whatsoever.

I don't see this as being an argument for anything but your own biases. Not that I'm overly concerned. You're entitled to your opinion of Bush. At present, our American Congress is overrun with wannabe-Euros (called Democrats, taxocrats, victicrats) and they've got lower approval ratings than even Bush. All the same, just as Bush is given credit for the stuff libs call bad, so it goes he gets the credit for the legislation he passes.


There were no attacks on American soil the first time you pissed off the countries that are currently trying to attack you. It took them 20 years or more, but when they made an attack, they made the most devastating terrorist attack ever seen, which affects america and americans and freedom in america (tapping phones, torture) years and years after the event. Comments like this are the reason why americans are viewed as stupid.

"Torture" of head-sawing terrorists is fine with me. If you're not an enemy soldier of a standing army, you have no rights under any code of law. It's embarrassing that anyone would try to invent rights for the very scum that seek to destroy civilization. Good riddance.

Phone tapping in wartime? Yawn. There's 300 million Americans, good luck sifting through the transcripts, feds.

Americans are stupid? Dumb is everywhere, but Europe's finished, has been for a long time. You're not a model for humanity, you're a warning. Socialist economies have high unemployment and are grossly inefficient. Without a fight, you've surrendered any economic edge you might have had, kow-towing to "global warming" charlatans. You've lost your individual national identities in that despicable EU. Nanny-state government cancels tobacco, seizes your guns--without resistance--leaving you defenseless sheep to be culled by criminals and your lefty propaganda media, the model which our American bastard media likes to imitate, covers up the resulting mess. With the death of religion, which the "intelligentsia" of Europe deem a triumph, the last remnant of your ability to transmit cultural values is gone. You might as well start bowing to Allah now.

dannym3141says...

>> ^quantumushroom:
Bush is a lot smarter than the left will ever give him credit for being. And if he's not, it just makes the left look even more incompetent.Trill, he's not a movie star/empty suit like the Obamessiah. He's done well considering the American media is 90% leftist and wants him to fail. At least have the temerity to admit he's never gotten a fair shake from the press, even to oneself.
"If Bush is "stupid", even with test scores higher than Frenchy Kerry's, then it's a very poor reflection on your taxocrats in Congress that they DANCE to his tune; most Bush legislation has passed handily and easily."
I don't see this as being an argument for anything but your own biases. Not that I'm overly concerned. You're entitled to your opinion of Bush. At present, our American Congress is overrun with wannabe-Euros (called Democrats, taxocrats, victicrats) and they've got lower approval ratings than even Bush. All the same, just as Bush is given credit for the stuff libs call bad, so it goes he gets the credit for the legislation he passes.
"Torture" of head-sawing terrorists is fine with me. If you're not an enemy soldier of a standing army, you have no rights under any code of law. It's embarrassing that anyone would try to invent rights for the very scum that seek to destroy civilization. Good riddance.
Phone tapping in wartime? Yawn. There's 300 million Americans, good luck sifting through the transcripts, feds.
Americans are stupid? Dumb is everywhere, but Europe's finished, has been for a long time. You're not a model for humanity, you're a warning. Socialist economies have high unemployment and are grossly inefficient. Without a fight, you've surrendered any economic edge you might have had, kow-towing to "global warming" charlatans. You've lost your individual national identities in that despicable EU. Nanny-state government cancels tobacco, seizes your guns--without resistance--leaving you defenseless sheep to be culled by criminals and your lefty propaganda media, the model which our American bastard media likes to imitate, covers up the resulting mess. With the death of religion, which the "intelligentsia" of Europe deem a triumph, the last remnant of your ability to transmit cultural values is gone. You might as well start bowing to Allah now.


Again and again you use sweeping and deflecting terms like "the left" "the liberal". Every piece of criticism is swatted by the same gaping maw. This lends you no credability whatsoever, especially when it's so blatant. Racists have better slur propaganda than you have - at least they've thought it out. In the same way you swat every criticism of bush as "left" and "liberal" bullshit, we should treat you with the same lack of intelligence you treat us, and refer to any compliment of bush as "right" or "conservative" or whatever the respective terms are.

You STILL fail to address the point. People have been filming, recording and watching bush for 8 years, and the worldwide opinion (not just lefties, liberals, whatever other buzz word you'll throw out) is that he is a moron. I'm NOT going to say that he has never gotten a fair shake from the media when i've seen the man stand in front of an audience and claim to know the name of a general, and sit there flaccidly saying "his name is........general!" When i've seen the man make an empty, ventriloquistic speech about terrorism, and then demand that we "watch this drive!"

Sifting through even more of your propaganda and buzz-words, i see you make yet another basic error:
"just as Bush is given credit for the stuff libs call bad, so it goes he gets the credit for the legislation he passes."
-- But i haven't done that, don't you see? Again your gaping swatting maw has landed you in the wrong. I'm not a lib, and i never said he gets all the credit for what passes through congress good or bad. I say he's as involved with the good as he is with the bad - ie. not that much.

Firstly the problem with torturing "head-sawing" terrorists is that you're assuming everyone to torture is guilty. Not necessarily true is it? That's why most suitably evolved countries/states have gotten rid of it. People......

you know what? half way through this i realised that i could spend days talking to you and you'd still not get it. you're an idiot, and unfortunately the world must survive with idiots. i tried to show you where you were wrong and instead of reading it you just said more stuff that was wrong. you don't even discuss it - you just throw words like "lib" and "left" around like it answers all questions in the same way people cling to arguments for religion.

i'd just like to finish by saying that i never said americans were stupid, and by assuming i did, it only lends weight to my opinion that you don't read things, you don't pay attention, you are incapable of discussion.

you've made this a very hollow victory perhaps thinker has the stamina to set the record straight

shuacsays...

Is it really that important that Bush is or is not a moron? Is that really what you guys are arguing about?

The real issue for me isn't that Bush is a moron. I don't believe he is. What I believe is that Bush is a remarkably callous human being.

Three months after 9/11, who else could say "But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." Even out of context, who would say that but a person who felt it?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011221-2.html

What other wartime president would dance in front of cameras, with American soldiers coming home in boxes, and many many more seriously, permanently injured? Only a person without a conscience could do that. No citation needed here, since I'm sure you know the dance I'm talking about.

In the days leading to war in March 2003, televangelist and friend Pat Robertson expressed misgivings about the invasion to Bush. Robertson remarked that Bush was like "I'm on top of the world." Who could act this way other than a person who felt this way?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/19/robertson.bush.iraq/

Three Star Marine General Gregory Newbold, about Bush's decision to invade Iraq, wrote, "was done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions — or bury the results."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/10/world/middleeast/10military.html

There are many more examples of this man's cold conscience. But the power of Bush's supporters to ignore the obvious far outweighs the power of demonstrable evidence. So ignore away!

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