Moving this video to Barseps's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

4 more comments have been lost in the ether at this killed duplicate.

*promote but I still think my title is better. :-p

Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Saturday, November 12th, 2011 7:28pm PST - promote requested by JiggaJonson.

The other one wasn't a dupe.

@lucky760, this shouldn't have happened. This 10 minute vid now has a backup embed that is only 90 seconds long. The dupe process happened all the way, instead of the shorter clip getting discarded.

@JiggaJonson and @Boise_Lib, welcome to the complexity that is now isduping.


>> ^siftbot:

4 more comments have been lost in the ether at this killed duplicate.

Yeah @bareboards2 @gwiz665 it's kind of my fault b/c I should have actually watched the other video, but then I complained to @Boise_Lib who initially marked it a dupe. He had the following to say:

"I just went by the FAQ:
If a newer submission's video is a clip of content found within an existing post, it will be considered a duplicate unless it meets both these criteria:

The original post is at least 15 minutes in length
The original post is at least 3 times longer than the clip"

So I can't blame him either, but I already communicated to him, and I think to lucky, that I'm going to make a poll about changing the dupe rules in teh FAQ once his powerpoint ticker poll is down, so we can hopefully straighten this out.

p.s. my clip was awesome'r and had a bitchin'r title.

@Boise_Lib left off a crucial bit on the written dupe guidelines. The last line:

"If a duplicate cannot adequately be considered an exact or reasonable replacement of the original, it should be * discarded."

So when the shorter vid was noted as being a dupe according to the mathematical guidelines (very very specific), then the "duping" poster "had" to discard their own video.

Poor @lucky760. So sick of dupe conversations.

My frustration is that we had a sift poll. 33-8.
http://videosift.com/poll/What-is-a-dupe Clear consensus, massively one-sided vote. And it was ignored in favor of mathematical precision, which hasn't helped.

It's just videos. It's just videos. It's just videos. My mantra.



>> ^JiggaJonson:

Yeah @bareboards2 @gwiz665 it's kind of my fault b/c I should have actually watched the other video, but then I complained to @Boise_Lib who initially marked it a dupe. He had the following to say:
"I just went by the FAQ:
If a newer submission's video is a clip of content found within an existing post, it will be considered a duplicate unless it meets both these criteria:
The original post is at least 15 minutes in length
The original post is at least 3 times longer than the clip"
So I can't blame him either, but I already communicated to him, and I think to lucky, that I'm going to make a poll about changing the dupe rules in teh FAQ once his powerpoint ticker poll is down, so we can hopefully straighten this out.
p.s. my clip was awesome'r and had a bitchin'r title.

Why did Jimmy get probation? What was his crime?