Umm *wtf *fear

Adding video to channels (Fear, Wtf) - requested by littledragon_79.

THIS IS WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!

For fucks sake.

I think this should be in the fail channel. I'm not going to call the invocation myself though.

When people are asked who the worst president was, a lot of people answer Bush. I do believe in my lifetime he's been the worst, though there have been many before him that were equally as bad in their own way.

Though, someone had a great answer to the question, "who is the worst president ever?" His reply was something along the lines of "Whoever is in office now, because they enjoy all the previous powers of the president before them plus the powers they create for themselves."

Interesting. I think I agree.

Wow. The poll gives a great illustration of how effective those attack talking points can be.

Orly Taitz 2012!
Orly Taitz 2012!
Orly Taitz 2012!

Man, that'd be so much fun!

Is it really pronounced Daily Kose? I always read it Daily Kay Ohs.

Gee - a poll written by the Daily Kos. I wonder how it will turn out...? (eyeroll)

Pure bunk. I've done survey design for over 13 years and the instrument is total garbage designed to elicit results oriented towards sensationalism. Results are worthless when you use such a worthless instrument. Well - worthless in the sense of actually being a realistic measurement of a population. I suppose Kos got what they wanted though - a bunch of bogus crap to fax to breathlessly waiting media puppets.

Oh - and equally stupid internet surfers.

... But ... but ... Winstonfield P., I was under the impression that you think Obama is a socialist...

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
Gee - a poll written by the Daily Kos. I wonder how it will turn out...? (eyeroll)
Pure bunk. I've done survey design for over 13 years and the instrument is total garbage designed to elicit results oriented towards sensationalism. Results are worthless when you use such a worthless instrument. Well - worthless in the sense of actually being a realistic measurement of a population. I suppose Kos got what they wanted though - a bunch of bogus crap to fax to breathlessly waiting media puppets.
Oh - and equally stupid internet surfers.


You're quite silly.

I really, really hope that a lot of those numbers can be explained by intentional snarkiness towards polling. "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer" seems like a fairly common human paradigm, so I tend to think that if you post a poll question that people don't really take very seriously, they are strongly tempted to provide an answer that just maintains or enhances the absurdity of the query.

Take for example the Greenpeace internet poll to name a tagged and tracked humpback whale. "Serious" names, that often had some linguistic or anthropological link to whales like "Aiko", "Kaimana", etc. got less than 1% of the total votes, and "Mr. Splashy Pants" got 78% (of 150,000+ respondents). I tend to doubt that 78% percent of respondents actually believed that was the best / most suitable name -- instead they liked the idea of promoting the more absurd / humorous option.

That can't fully explain away these numbers, and it is frankly tragic to think that anyone might actually believe that Obama "wants the terrorists to win", or "is a socialist". I think that the real direction that the GOP is taking is grim enough, but this poll doesn't really accurately describe its true failings -- and I should note that I say this as a registered republican who would really love for the party to return to some measure of sanity.

>> ^lucky760:
Is it really pronounced Daily Kose? I always read it Daily Kay Ohs.


It's pronounced like the last syllable of the word Markos, named after the sites founder.

This is a poll of people who say they are Republicans. I'm sure more than a few Democrats jumped in for some fun answers, so I wouldn't put too much faith in the results.

Having said that, I do know people who really believe Obama is a non-citizen and should be removed from office before he can "bring the terrorists in". I can't speak for how common such beliefs are though.

Silly

Silly? Well, if by silly you mean "dead on accurate" then, sure.

I thought you thought he was a socialist

Obama wouldn't call himself a socialist. He'd call himself a progressive, or a moderate, or some other leftist term. He is a person who almost exclusively pushes large government, big spending solutions to issues. If that's a socialist, then he's a socialist - but all such political labels are muddled these days.

And - I reiterate - the survey is bunk. I'll illustrate... Swap the polarity of this study and turn back the clock a few years. It is 2008 and Rush Limbaugh sponsors a random poll of Democrat voters. Here are his questions...

1. Do you believe GWB lied on purpose to start the Iraq War so he could make his Father happy?
2. Do you agree that Cheney & Bush conspired with Halliburton to intentionally profit from the war?
3. Do you believe GWB is so unintelligent that he can't even speak properly?
4. Do you agree that it was actually the Bush Administration that blew up the Twin Towers on 9/11?
5. Was Bush a draft dodger?
6. Is it your opinion that Bush stole the 2000 election by cheating and manipulating the Supreme Court?

Now - if that exact poll was run I would lay you odds that the answers would be 75% to 90% in the range of "Yeah he lied, yeah he's stupid, yeah he blew up the towers, yeah he cheated..." Would the results be legitimate? No - they'd be absolute pure bunk.

Survey design is all about removing bias from the questions. It is impossible to get good data when you are using a bad instrument. GIGO. The Daily Kos questions are leading and biased. Therefore the results are complete crap. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant of proper and effective survey design. These questions were designed to get a specific response - and they got it. It means nothing.

UPDATE

As further evidence of my own brilliance on this subject...

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/06/dailykoss-kos-to-sue-polling-company-research-2000.html

Yup. The poll - and others - performed by Research 2000 is unadulterated bunk. As usual, left wingnuts got all wet and sticky over a lie.