he probably had a woody and they thought he had a gun.

Aren't they required to have cameras on them to record the raid in order to assist in investigations just like this?

or is that just a requirement in certain states?

Probably aught to be a federal law. Prosecute these cops and make sure that this meth "expert" no longer has a job

Reporter: "Hobbes, a self proclaimed controlled substances expert.."

"then Quoting Hobbes: " I drove to the location and drove around the entire property, once I was downwind from the location, I could smell the strong odor of chemicals. I formed the expert opinion, that the location is being used as a clandestine methamphetamine lab site."

Listen to the retarded language of these bumblers-Slip-shod redneck petty-thug punks off the chain in Bumfukistan L.A. County....Buncha real fucking "experts."

Pretty typical, if the cops want to search your premises, they will. In this case, it was that wall and gate that caused suspicions. Then "anonymous informant" steppes in to the picture, you got all the ticks checked, go ahead in full swat gear, detain everyone, see if there something that you can justify the action.

The bad thing is, often they are right. Suspicious places often are suspicious. So it gets fed back in the system "this method works, we get only x% of wrongful blaa blaa". They do the same here, busting chili growers for marijuana... Then they try to justify it, play it down or simply threaten to keep quiet. Bad thing here is, if you obtain evidence during wrongful seizure or search, it's still valid. So the act of obtaining evidence is is illegal but evidence is not. This sounds right if the reprimand for breaking the law fro obtaining evidence is treated as a crime but it never is in any western society that i know of. Usually things go to internal investigation that results at most a non-paid leave, a paid leave, a verbal notice and most often, absolutely nothing.

It's "end justify the means" policy and we did our best to get rid of that by inventing all these complicated laws protecting us that are now turned on against us. W can do with uncomplicated laws too, the society would stay lawful, peaceful. The injustice that comes should be enough reason to not go back few centuries.

I'll grant you that. Whenever they showed the place. It looked like your stereotypical compound where if it wasn't drugs, it would be guns or a religious cult.

I love how the guy keeps stressing he's an expert...well this "expert" was very clearly wrong and a man needlessly died because of it.

Even if he was right. The guy didn't need to die so it's irrelevant.

It sounds like the entire department has got some corruption problems though so another case of hiring wannabe cowboys instead of actual professionals.

You need a court order to conduct a raid like that.
Anyone ask the judge what his reasoning was for signing the search warrant?
Oh, I forgot, judges are the be-all and end-all for justifying the law.

POP POP POP / Watching geezers drop.

Also, Yogi, most people don't believe in that global warming stuff, especially when you have winter storm after winter storm.

If you can convince people that there is such a thing as global climate change AND that it is caused by humans AND that it can be stopped by humans, then you might proceed from there. But frankly, global climate change is being pushed by the same progressives who want more centralized power, which equals more money, so...global climate change means more of our money must go to the gov't which might be able to make a case that it's a threat, but will never be able to make a case that they can do anything about it.