what a fucking douche-bag

Anybody ever hear of an odometer?

Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around someone elses car, you could miss it.

*lies

Adding video to channels (Lies) - requested by ant.

>> ^Phreezdryd:

Anybody ever hear of an odometer?


I'm pretty sure that's how the first guy found out.

TBH I think most (not all) people who own these cars are wealthy enough that they don't even care. Which is why it took so long to catch him. Either someone very anal (like me) or someone who like ALWAYS wanted a sports car and it's the one nice thing he has in his life complained.

Bow-bow...chicka-chicka

Is there anything they can even charge the guy with though? I mean you are leaving your car with them and giving it over to their care.......so I am betting their paperwork covers their ass for this kind of stuff if it should arise.

I guess the only thing you could possibly do is try to get them on the personal use stuff. Like the hauling of wood, peeling out on dirt roads, etc.

Cameron's dad isn't going to be happy...

Just put the car on blocks and shove it into reverse and let it run. The odometer will surely go down.

They should have kept a spare set of keys and "stole" the car when it was parked at the dude's house overnight. Sweat him out a little.

he needs to be playing this song on the radio.

Corvettes are the pinto of super cars. Seriously, I know they are hugely popular in some parts of the US (particularly in the south), but they are absolute shit. There are hundreds of other vastly superior cars out there for that $60 grand.

>> ^MilkmanDan:

They should have kept a spare set of keys and "stole" the car when it was parked at the dude's house overnight. Sweat him out a little.


Nah, have the "Owners" come back from their trip early, when the car is far away, then have them call the police because it was "obviously" stolen.

In Texas they would charge you with "Unauthorized Use of a Motor Vehicle" or a UUMV which is different than Grand Theft Auto. So say I live with a room mate and he has access to my keys cause I leave them on a peg in my kitchen or something and maybe I've even let him use it before but not this time, this time he takes my car to the store when I'm asleep and crashes it or doesn't return for a few days. That's what the charge would be since he didn't really "steal" it he just used it without asking me. I believe it's a either a high class Misdemeanor or the Lowest Class Felony. Sorry for the run-on sentence there not sure how to word that differently lol.

>> ^Porksandwich:

Is there anything they can even charge the guy with though? I mean you are leaving your car with them and giving it over to their care.......so I am betting their paperwork covers their ass for this kind of stuff if it should arise.
I guess the only thing you could possibly do is try to get them on the personal use stuff. Like the hauling of wood, peeling out on dirt roads, etc.

>> ^Auger8:

In Texas they would charge you with "Unauthorized Use of a Motor Vehicle" or a UUMV which is different than Grand Theft Auto. So say I live with a room mate and he has access to my keys cause I leave them on a peg in my kitchen or something and maybe I've even let him use it before but not this time, this time he takes my car to the store when I'm asleep and crashes it or doesn't return for a few days. That's what the charge would be since he didn't really "steal" it he just used it without asking me. I believe it's a either a high class Misdemeanor or the Lowest Class Felony. Sorry for the run-on sentence there not sure how to word that differently lol.
>> ^Porksandwich:
Is there anything they can even charge the guy with though? I mean you are leaving your car with them and giving it over to their care.......so I am betting their paperwork covers their ass for this kind of stuff if it should arise.
I guess the only thing you could possibly do is try to get them on the personal use stuff. Like the hauling of wood, peeling out on dirt roads, etc.



Still betting their agreement has language to cover a very broad number of reasons for them to move your vehicle. Without the video evidence, he could say he took it home because security chased off someone messing with it the night before.

I mean if you sign something saying "it's OK to...." and then they do something that could be construed to fall under that. You've got a much larger argument to be made, IE you entered into a bad agreement and they took advantage of you versus them just behaving beyond the normal for that kind of business.

I'm not saying this guy isn't an absolute dirt bag and deserves someone to beat him soundly for using their vehicle in an asshole way, but......I'm just not seeing it happen in a court of law knowing that no one is going to watch your car without an agreement you sign if you're leaving your keys with them during it. Long term parking is different because you park it yourself and are in charge of handling whatever comes up problem wise with it...never seen a written agreement in that scenario. There the people working the lot getting your car (no keys or keys) would be obviously unauthorized use and not outright theft since it was there when you got back.

Wow I hadn't actually watched the video when I made my last comment so I didn't realize the extent of use here. But considering they didn't just use it once and park it at their house and return it the next day your argument falls apart. They repeatedly used it to run errands and were obviously joyriding at high speeds in some segments this guy will be lucky if all he gets is a UUMV charge. And even if his contract does cover this sort of use with customer cars one thing I know from watching civil court TV is that you can't write a contract that essentially allows you to break the law and then go back later and claim it's the other parties fault for not reading the contract. If you break the law you break the law end of story and with the footage they have this guy has zero chance of getting off the hook here.

[edit] Though your right without the video it might be harder to prove and it might have ended up in civil court rather than criminal court though I would think even a civil court Judge would realize this was way beyond fair use. And most car parking companies wouldn't include "special" language in their contracts to cover their asses. It would seem to me that the contract itself would be incriminating at that point.

>> ^Porksandwich:

>> ^Auger8:
In Texas they would charge you with "Unauthorized Use of a Motor Vehicle" or a UUMV which is different than Grand Theft Auto. So say I live with a room mate and he has access to my keys cause I leave them on a peg in my kitchen or something and maybe I've even let him use it before but not this time, this time he takes my car to the store when I'm asleep and crashes it or doesn't return for a few days. That's what the charge would be since he didn't really "steal" it he just used it without asking me. I believe it's a either a high class Misdemeanor or the Lowest Class Felony. Sorry for the run-on sentence there not sure how to word that differently lol.
>> ^Porksandwich:
Is there anything they can even charge the guy with though? I mean you are leaving your car with them and giving it over to their care.......so I am betting their paperwork covers their ass for this kind of stuff if it should arise.
I guess the only thing you could possibly do is try to get them on the personal use stuff. Like the hauling of wood, peeling out on dirt roads, etc.


Still betting their agreement has language to cover a very broad number of reasons for them to move your vehicle. Without the video evidence, he could say he took it home because security chased off someone messing with it the night before.
I mean if you sign something saying "it's OK to...." and then they do something that could be construed to fall under that. You've got a much larger argument to be made, IE you entered into a bad agreement and they took advantage of you versus them just behaving beyond the normal for that kind of business.
I'm not saying this guy isn't an absolute dirt bag and deserves someone to beat him soundly for using their vehicle in an asshole way, but......I'm just not seeing it happen in a court of law knowing that no one is going to watch your car without an agreement you sign if you're leaving your keys with them during it. Long term parking is different because you park it yourself and are in charge of handling whatever comes up problem wise with it...never seen a written agreement in that scenario. There the people working the lot getting your car (no keys or keys) would be obviously unauthorized use and not outright theft since it was there when you got back.

@Auger8

Shrug, we'll see. I hope they follow up with it when the guy does or does not get charged for something. His business will suffer, but chances are he'll just shut it down and open another with a manager between him and the customers.

I think they might have a charge of something against him, and unauthorized may fall under it...but I think he has wiggle room despite the evidence because the news people never stopped him from doing that stuff....seeing it happen and letting it continue with something you have legal authority over (they rented the car) is kind of letting it happen. Hopefully they had police involved before long into it.

And I say all this knowing a little bit about how they handle car lot laws and customer vehicles...you can hold onto a customer vehicle and use it for a lot of things if the customer gives you permission and leaves the keys. And they can do the same to your vehicles on a long test drive.... Which is why you don't let them go on drives alone. Cops only care really if the law is broken (traffic infraction, wreck) or if vehicle is stolen. If they guy takes your vehicle and handles it like an asshole peeling tires, flooring it from a dead stop in cold weather and whatever else...they don't care and there ain't a whole lot you can do aside from try to claim damages if it results in some immediate issue following these actions and that's just going to court.

All of the ferris bueller comments have restored my faith in humanity.