Obama Responds to Question About Akin's Rape Remark

ReverendTedsays...

Wait, shouldn't we be "parsing or qualifying" it?
If someone wasn't actually raped, but claims to have been, then we now have an innocent, consenting adult who bears the stigma of a "sex offender" for the rest of their life.
Am I misunderstanding Akin's use of "legitimate"?
I'm taking it here to mean "a person who was actually raped" as opposed to "a person who claims to have been raped in order to justify an abortion".
Was Akin using "legitimate" to indicate rape executed through "violent assault" verses "psychological coercion" or "pharmacological manipulation"? (If the latter is the case, then I agree with the President here. I feel it should be noted that Akin's position stands on flawed science regardless.)

vaire2ubesays...

you are probably right... he is stupid enough to try and make this point... then he would be serious enough to really fuck up the wording being sterile and technical around an unsavory topic... because to have forethought on his words would require enough brain to realize his own absurdity and clearly that is not the case.

KnivesOutsays...

@ReverendTed @vaire2ube Akin was suggesting that we can somehow tell if a rape is real based on whether the victim get's pregnant or not. It's not about determining the facts of a case based on evidence, criminal investigation, or whatever, it's because he's using some Victorian superstitious bullshit idea about what constitutes a "legitimate rape".

So no, in that regard we shouldn't be trying to parse rape into "real rape", "fake rape", "date rape", "man rape", "butt rape", "legitimate rape", "illegitimate rape", or any other kind of rape.

Care of The Onion: Pregnant Woman Relieved To Learn Her Rape Was Illegitimate

ReverendTedsays...

@KnivesOut To clarify: Akin's premise is deeply flawed, I think he is wrong, but I think you're mis-stating his point.
He opposes abortion, and apparently does not adhere to the usual line of "except in cases of rape or incest". He's trying to downplay his opposition to abortion in the case of rape by suggesting that it is rare for rape to result in a pregnancy. You can, perhaps, extrapolate this line of thinking into what you've suggested, that someone who is pregnant "wasn't actually raped", but I don't think that's the argument he was trying to make.

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