New Rule: I Didn't Reproduce Day

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YouTube: Bill Maher proposes a national day to recognize the contributions of single people.
ChaosEnginesays...

As someone who doesn't have, and doesn't intend to have, kids...

Bill is missing the point. Yes, it's great for the environment, but we don't need a day for single or intentionally childless people, because EVERY day is "I didn't reproduce day".

I can sleep in every weekend. I can go out on any given school night.

CrushBugsays...

Yes, and there is a level of arrogance to his viewpoint.

Married friends of ours, who don't intend to have kids, when they see some perceived problem with someone else's kids, blow kisses at each other and say "Thanks, honey!"

It gets pretty tiring, pretty fucking fast.

ChaosEnginesaid:

As someone who doesn't have, and doesn't intend to have, kids...

Bill is missing the point. Yes, it's great for the environment, but we don't need a day for single or intentionally childless people, because EVERY day is "I didn't reproduce day".

I can sleep in every weekend. I can go out on any given school night.

ChaosEnginesays...

Ugh... seriously? I'm amazed no-one has punched them yet.

CrushBugsaid:

Married friends of ours, who don't intend to have kids, when they see some perceived problem with someone else's kids, blow kisses at each other and say "Thanks, honey!"

It gets pretty tiring, pretty fucking fast.

newtboyjokingly says...

That probably does get tiring fast....but not nearly as tiring or as fast as people's unrestrained, undisciplined children running amuck get tiring to those of us responsible enough to not make more unneeded people.

Turnabout's fair play.

CrushBugsaid:

Yes, and there is a level of arrogance to his viewpoint.

Married friends of ours, who don't intend to have kids, when they see some perceived problem with someone else's kids, blow kisses at each other and say "Thanks, honey!"

It gets pretty tiring, pretty fucking fast.

CrushBugsays...

That is not what I am talking about. As a parent, I get pissed at those parents as well. That is shitty parenting and it is their responsibility. You will note that I said "perceived problem".

I am talking about normal behaviors such as a child crying when they fall down. I am talking about a child being irrational at new hardship. I am talking about children being children. As parents we need to help our children learn and cope with new things. Children shouldn't be derided and dismissed.

That is what pisses me off about these people that think normal children should be kept from society and brought out "when they are adults". What a fucked up attitude. It says more about those adults, than it does about those children.

newtboysaid:

That probably does get tiring fast....but not nearly as tiring or as fast as people's unrestrained, undisciplined children running amuck get tiring to those of us responsible enough to not make more unneeded people.

Turnabout's fair play.

newtboysays...

In those cases, they're being douchey.
I didn't read you to mean a perceived problem meant it wasn't a real problem, now I get you.

Children will be children, but can still be incredibly annoying to some, even if they're well behaved....like a baby on an airplane, it's often not the child's fault. I can support them thinking that all children are annoying (at times), and even communicating it to each other with, say, a knowing wink, but the open, blatant derision is uncalled for.....usually.

That said, there should be child free zones in public spaces imo. Just Tuesday we used our once a year passes to the United Airlines club in SFO to have a nice, quiet place to relax between long flights, and a family came in with two <5 year olds and instantly turned it into the loud, raucous environment everyone there paid to escape. Their children weren't being bad, just being loud children in a quiet place. That's the parent's being douchbags imo. Just as the childless shouldn't insist on no children in public, parents shouldn't insist they must be allowed to go everywhere. Don't take a baby to an adult movie.

CrushBugsaid:

That is not what I am talking about. As a parent, I get pissed at those parents as well. That is shitty parenting and it is their responsibility. You will note that I said "perceived problem".

I am talking about normal behaviors such as a child crying when they fall down. I am talking about a child being irrational at new hardship. I am talking about children being children. As parents we need to help our children learn and cope with new things. Children shouldn't be derided and dismissed.

That is what pisses me off about these people that think normal children should be kept from society and brought out "when they are adults". What a fucked up attitude. It says more about those adults, than it does about those children.

CrushBugsays...

I completely agree with you on those last points. I think it is important that parents talk to other parents about this behavior, and not in a cruel or dismissive way. Something supportive, as I am sure the actual parents are probably just as frustrated and have been dealing with it longer than the 5 minutes I have.

newtboysaid:

In those cases, they're being douchey.
I didn't read you to mean a perceived problem meant it wasn't a real problem, now I get you.

Children will be children, but can still be incredibly annoying to some, even if they're well behaved....like a baby on an airplane, it's often not the child's fault. I can support them thinking that all children are annoying (at times), and even communicating it to each other with, say, a knowing wink, but the open, blatant derision is uncalled for.

That said, there should be child free zones in public spaces imo. Just Tuesday we used our once a year passes to the United Airlines club in SFO to have a nice, quiet place to relax between long flights, and a family came in with two <5 year olds and instantly turned it into the loud, raucous environment everyone there paid to escape. Their children weren't being bad, just being loud children in a quiet place. That's the parent's being douchbags imo. Just as the childless shouldn't insist on no children in public, parents shouldn't insist they must be allowed to go everywhere. Don't take a baby to an adult movie.

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