Massive GT4 European Series crash at Red Bull Ring

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Massive crash in the final lap of the European GT4 Series race at Red-Bull Ring, Austria !!!

(via Jalopnik who point out that both drivers were fine, a testament to the safety of the GT4 race cars).
AeroMechanicalsays...

I'd actually call that the other way. It was the driver of the inside car's responsibility to leave room for the car on the outside. Really, it's probably what you'd call a 'racing incident' and nobody's fault.

newtboysays...

First, about the leaving room part. In most car racing, you don't have to 'leave room', as long as you don't touch. Cutting off another driver's line is part of racing, you don't just LET other cars pass you, normally. Turning into a car's rear axle, that's NEVER OK in racing (except demolition racing).

Secondly, and more to the point, there WAS room. Not much, but definitely enough. If you look really close, at 21-22 seconds is when the contact happens, and the yellow car is at least 1 foot away from the white line, and no where near the 'run out' (red and white striped 'curb') for the corner. He intentionally turns into the rear of the white car, hitting it instead of just keeping it straight and coming in behind. I don't think he even would have used the run out had he just kept it straight, and certainly wouldn't have been off the track. His other option would be to let off the gas, then move right once the car in front is clear, but then he'd be in second. I think he expected the white car to crash, but not take him with it. He certainly should have known what would happen when he turned into the other car at that speed coming out of a turn, and that it would be terrible.

The car behind has the greater duty to avoid an accident on the track. At least, that's how it was when I did off road racing.

Side note...at :46, I'm pretty sure some poo came out of the guy with the blue flag.

AeroMechanicalsaid:

I'd actually call that the other way. It was the driver of the inside car's responsibility to leave room for the car on the outside. Really, it's probably what you'd call a 'racing incident' and nobody's fault.

AeroMechanicalsays...

I dunno, I'm still not convinced. We aren't seeing what happened before though, and I'm assuming the inside car is the one doing the passing, which may not be the case. If you're passing someone on the inside and you're two wide in a corner, it certainly is your responsibility to leave room for the car you are passing. Though you could be right, it doesn't look to me as though the outside car turned into the inside car, and the driver certainly never would have done that intentionally because that would inevitably end in them both crashing (assuming this isn't a Prost/Senna sort of thing). Since they're both sweeping towards the outside, the way I see it, the inside car is the one that hit the car on the outside.

Granted, even in this scenario, the driver on the outside could and should have conceded the corner, but he isn't obliged to do so, and I certainly wouldn't have expected it on the final corner of the final lap of the race.

It will be interesting to see what the stewards say. Or said, I suppose they probably already said whatever and I can just google it.

edit: The Jalopnik link text seems to agree with my assessment, that it was the inside driver's fault if anybody is to be at fault.

ChaosEnginesays...

I would say that if the yellow car was just following the line, he was in the right.

AFAIK, you can close the racing line, but not once the car behind overlaps you. In that case the Aston pulled across the yellow car and caused the accident.

BUT...

if you turn the video down to 1/4 speed, at around 2.5 seconds you can see the yellow car make a fractional turn to the right.

hazmat22says...

Fault aside (personally I think inside would be more at fault), I noticed that the yellow car didn't appear to ever brake. Trying to avoid spinning and a side impact, slow reactions or just really annoyed at the other driver.

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