"Wow..." - That's all I can say...

An innocent party is being punished, forced to pay for someone else's irresponsibility.

So why are these two outraged?

Isn't this a core belief of leftist doctrine?

>> ^quantumushroom:
An innocent party is being punished, forced to pay for someone else's irresponsibility.
So why are these two outraged?
Isn't this a core belief of leftist doctrine?


Yes, on the list of core beliefs it's right after killing babies and teaching kids gay sex.

didn't your mother teach you to STFU QM? Pansy.

Or are you depending on society to do it for you? Leech.

You got owned and there will be no bailout.

Wait a second. The woman got pregnant in 1987?

The kid is past 18 now.

WTF?

Let the guy out!

^ They put him in jail for back support he still owes.

I'm paying support for a kid that's not mine as well. They haven't sent me to jail yet because they can garnish my checks from work.

State worker was a friend of the family and assumed since the girl and I were living together at the time she got pregnant, I had to be the father. What she didn't know is the girl was gone 99% of the time screwing other guys to support her crank habit. Needless to say I was told by said state worker that if I didn't sign paternity, the girl would not get support from the state. After about 3 weeks of holding out I finally gave in and signed paternity. Come to find out later what i always knew, kid isn't mine but I'm still paying back support for him (he was born in '83). And yes, they garnish my unemployment checks too when I'm not working.

This has basically ruined my credit to the point where I cannot buy a new car, rent a place to live unless I know the folks who own the property, or buy a house of my own. I feel this guy's pain.

From what I understand, if you live with a single mother in Washington State, you can be held liable for child support, even if she somehow prevented you from finding out the child (edit: the child that ISN'T yours) existed.

*anecdotal

Why does this talk show continue to have such lousy sound quality?

Men need to be VERY careful in today's world. It is true, if you are dating a single mother and later break up, if she can prove that you were providing support for her and her child (who isn't yours), in some places the government can force you to continue paying support. It gets worse if you are living together, it gets worse if you were married, etc. This is all with everybody's full knowledge that the child is not the man's biological child. Once they are dependent on you, they will always be dependent on you.

As word of this spreads, it gets harder for single moms to date, as if having the full time job of raising a child wasn't enough of a barrier. It's not good for anybody in the long run.

>> ^quantumushroom:
An innocent party is being punished, forced to pay for someone else's irresponsibility.
So why are these two outraged?
Isn't this a core belief of leftist doctrine?


I'm not familiar with what you're describing as "leftist doctrine" but it is my belief that people have their own set of moral beliefs. They will tend to side with the political party that aligns closest to these beliefs even if they're not a perfect match.

Obviously there are other aspects to party support, particularly economical rather than ethical, but the political party or religion that you support does not (or should not) define all your beliefs.

A person should try and retain some independent thought to be able to question proposals by both politicians and religious texts/leaders.

As a non-custodial father, I firmly believe that child support laws in many states are vehemently anti-male.

In my support order, issued in 1998, I was ordered to pay close to $800/mo for a single child born in 1996.
That's a (*(@*#$*&&*@!!! mortgage payment.

My wages are garnished as an act of first resort.
Attempts at getting the amount reduced have resulted in naught, partly due to my own guilt about doing so (it is my daughter, after all), and partly due to neglect by the enforcement agency.
At one point during a change in computer systems by the enforcement agency from county-run to state-run, my payment was behind, and the enforcement agency would not do any research into the reason why I was behind, as my garnishment was sent out like clockwork every other week.
Over and above the support amount, there is a 2% poundage (more like pwnage!) to cover the expenses of the support agency.
They will do nothing for me as the father if I have questions or issues with my support payments. Yet if the mother has an issue, they are more than willing to try to take me to court (even in another STATE!) or pursue me on behalf of the mother.

I am branded a criminal if I don't earn enough to pay my bills as well as submit to this outrageous legal obligation.


I love my daughter. I loathe the support system and the way it treats men in general.

>> ^brycewi19:
Wait a second. The woman got pregnant in 1987?
The kid is past 18 now.
WTF?
Let the guy out!


she was actually gotten inserted by a specific specimen from some man who was the actual daddy in the year of 1980.