Fed can you fix the quotes. it shows messed up on the main page.

Yeah, I think it's the italics tags. As I understand it, the front/queue pages don't display the use of html. This needs that long tag too?

Garry Shandling and Sean Penn??? Where are the real experts?

This "if we knew then what we know now" argument about why the Democrats voted for the war doesn't wash with me. The same thing happened in Britain, where Tony Blair was facing defeat in his own Labour party and the only way he managed to win the vote on going to war was by getting support from the Conservative opposition (which adds weight to my suspicions that Blair turned his party into a facsimile of the Conservatives in order to come to power in the first place!). This, I think, is the policitian's way of 'getting round' the democratic process, by making deals with other parties in order to do the things that they wouldn't be able to do because they don't get enough support on their own!

So not only does this "we were stupid to believe them then" argument not wash it seems to cover up for dirty behind the scenes deals. If even someone like me knew that the war was stupid and illegal at the time and the policitians didn't then that makes the policitians either incredibly stupid or desperately trying to extricate themselves from the mess which they voted for at the time - with both their vote at the time and their plea of ignorance now being based purely on self-interest.

In that way the Republicans (and Labour in Britain) were 'smart' in that they tarred everyone in the politics with their deceits. Now they have the perfect alibi as they somehow managed to 'dupe' all the most 'important' people in power to go with them, so now all the vested interests of these outside parties might prevent Bush and his cabal getting the jail terms they so richly deserve, just in case their part in the sequence of events is also exposed and they end up going down with them! The Republicans have certainly proved themselves to be brilliantly devious because even losing the war can be twisted into being the fault of whoever pulls the troops out - because the Americans would have 'won' if they had just stuck to Bush's plan! I think that was the plan all the time - to tar the opposition with the 'loss' of an unwinnable war while Bush got his wish of killing Saddam.

"Sean Penn blatantly states that Bush and Cheney should be in Jail." Spicoli has spoken!!
They should all be in jail, if you'd bother to study the track record of the latest speaker of the house of cards, her pals, backers, Clitless', Feinstein, Boxer...these are the cunts that that have taught the newspeak to ya....and their wealthy, agenda-oriented pals have another twist on fucking us, theirs won't be the MIC, a trainwreck waiting to happen, and most folks are soooooo happy!

Trade bush for cunts, and you still have the STD's and HIV....they are all coming in from behind!

Has not the obvious been made clear to most??/ Race Baiting works for wars like it works for elections....the Muslims may or may not be to blame, but they are goddamn sure as hell being used.......poor bastards...they were made an offer they could not refuse......who made the offer is the enemy, and we aid and abet with asshole, bandwagon, clever retortionist sluts like maher, like Penn(hurts just to say his fucking moron name) and all the vapid hybrid-auto driving, personal-trainer having, vapid and mind-numbed media whores......

Get off the fucking planet, empire!


if the world worked sensibly, sean penn would be a drunk out of work hack, U2 would stick to teen croonin', dictators and fascists would be eradicated before they ever had power or influence, kim ill would be dragged into the streets and eviscerated in the public square by n.koreans with a will that had not been tainted, programmed, the so-called thinking people of the world would not make half-assed justifications like "no WMD's" as an excuse not to send a fuck like Hussein up in a retrofitted weather balloon, there would be no personal agenda involved with regard to political parties, who put the good of themselves and their cronies above that of the people, repubs and dems all the same in their insanity......and the people of the U.S. would not be in the precariously insane position of even thinking of putting a style-slut, money-wasting, empire building, out of touch cunt like Hildegard Clitless in the drivers seat, are you completely without conscience???
It's like fucking Lot when he was sure there would be at least one person who had not sunk to the basest of human mentality, in Sodom.....
And the folks who will usher in the New Order of Socialism in the U.S., will do the same thing as they have always been forced to do...vote for the lesser of evils for president, there being only assholes, idgits, and dangerous slags on the current ballot, and more to come ,no doubt, as we race toward oblivion......

then you get kids who think they do the world a service, by parroting mainstream media........This country is so whacked!!

Didn't sean penn drown in a canoe in New Orleans?

Maher could do so much bettern than inviting those two asshats penn and Shandling. Shandling is sooo popular I screwed his name up the first time.

I don't envy the right-wing these days. Defending the indefensible is obviously extremely stressful. We're in a pointless war that benefits nobody other than the defense industry - Halleburton, Blackwater and the hardware suppliers. We're spending trillions so these companies can make billions, and more importantly, wasting thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives. And we took one of the few secular Muslim countries around and managed to convert it into a cesspit of battling religious sects. Saddam was a vicious tin-pot dictator, but the mess we've created has resulted on more deaths than he ever did (most of the Kurds were slaughtered in the aftermath of Bush Sr's war for rebelling as urged by Bush Sr.).

See? I didn't have to make a single childish personal attack. It helps when the actual facts are on your side.

"Saddam was a vicious tin-pot dictator, but the mess we've created has resulted on more deaths than he ever did."

I take it you kids on this site have never heard of a little thing called the Iran-Iraq War?

I take it you didn't know we were selling arms to both sides, supporting Iraq after the CIA operation to install the Shah of Iran back fired in the form of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, and creating the subsequent hostage situation. Not even mentioning the whole Iran-Contra affair. The CIA itself stated that this would happen, categorized as operational "blow-back".

Why re-install the Shah of Iran? Because the Iranian people wanted to simply nationalize their oil supply away from corporations from the UK and the US.

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