Wake Up, people! At this rate pretty soon blacks might have the vote, women might be allowed out of the kitchen and people everywhere will want to work a 40 hour week! Where does it end?

Maybe we should go back to the old definition:

A property arrangement in which a father sells his daughter to an unrelated man in exchange for the social gain associated with the familial connection, and dependent on the culture and status of those involved, sometimes including other property such as a dowry or a bride price.

Christian culture warriors: see also:

Main Entry:
big·ot
Pronunciation:
\ˈbi-gət\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
French, hypocrite, bigot
Date:
1660

: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

just make healthcare affordable since the only benefit of marraige is insurance and sharing healthcare decisions... who cares how you stick what where... marraige should become strictly ceremonial, and a whole lot of laws need to be updated regarding power of attorney style rights that now go with marriages.

poop.

quickly QM, invoke moral relativism!

the music is hilarious

I propose an exchange with gay "marriage" proponents. I will give you a single $1 bill in exchange for one $2, $5 or $10 bill. After all, these bills are the same color, size, shape, and use the same ink. They are all considered legal tender, so there's really no reason for you to 'value' one more than another and no obvious differences to fret over.

Boycott dictionaries!

QM caries around several billfolds to keep his denominations separate but equal.

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Yes, wake up sheeple! The dictionary doesn't reflect changing definitions of words - it actively creates the meaning! Furthermore it's a known fact that Noah Webster was very active in the gay culture of the 1790s. Here's a picture of him in drag.

QM caries around several billfolds to keep his denominations separate but equal.<--Funny.
I'm going to miss paper money. Obama's scamulus is turning every dollar into 15 cents.

Marriage relativism: a skateboard is equal to a car and a car to a jet. Hey, they're all just transportation!

Constitutional relativism: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, except when Fundamentalist Christians demand otherwise.

marriageable is a word? Thanks video you have enlightened me

>> ^dgandhi:
Maybe we should go back the old definition:
A property arrangement in which a father sells his daughter to an unrelated man in exchange for the social gain associated with the familial connection, and dependent on the culture and status of those involved, sometimes including other property such as a dowry or a bride price.


Cmon QM, reply to this.

Personally... I think the gay agenda is FABULOUS!!

QM is absolutely right, because naturally people are just as comparable to each other as inanimate objects. A black man is just a stick of licorice right? I'm just a sheet of paper myself.

Sorry, but a *person* has considerably more value than any object. Be it billfold, mode of transportation, or even unjust, unfair, bigoted laws. Blacks are people. Native Americans are people. Women are people. Unfortunately for the backwards people believing in a book promoting infanticide, genocide, slavery, incest, and cowardice (I'd call handing over your virgin daughter to appease a mob cowardice), GAYS are people as well.

They can fight all they want, but progress *will* happen no matter how they oppose it. I suppose we'll have to put up with their weeping and gnashing of teeth through it all though.

>> ^quantumushroom:
QM caries around several billfolds to keep his denominations separate but equal. --Funny.
I'm going to miss paper money. Obama's scamulus is turning every dollar into 15 cents.

Shit! Shit! Shit! Ok, don't panic... uh... bring up the stimulus! Ha! They won't expect that!

I'll not mention the Scamulus and our new communist PresiTeleprompter's endless Unconstitutional power grabs in unrelated threads if select left-wringers here will stop desperately referencing Black people and slavery to somehow make a point about gay marriage. Remember, it was Blacks as a voting bloc who helped vote down legalized gay marriage in Commiefornia, resulting in many, many uses of the N-word over at Daily Komatose and other liberal web meccas.

A property arrangement in which a father sells his daughter to an unrelated man in exchange for the social gain associated with the familial connection, and dependent on the culture and status of those involved, sometimes including other property such as a dowry or a bride price.

As archaic (or not, since there are still child brides in some Muslim countries) as arranged marriages were/are for power , they were still between a man and a woman (or women). Even societies that either were indifferent to homosexuality or--in the weakest form of approval--looked the other way, never condoned gay marriage.

Men and women are not interchangeable, there are real differences between the sexes.

And for the trendy religion-bashers, Christianity has given more good to the world than it has taken, and done far less evil than communism, socialism and fascism.

'Gay' has and will always been with us. Because it hasn't been openly condoned as often as condemned doesn't mean it hasn't been condoned in past cultures or shouldn't be in the future.

>> ^quantumushroom:
As archaic (or not, since there are still child brides in some Muslim countries) as arranged marriages were/are for power , they were still between a man and a woman (or women).

No, these were arrangements between two men, a father and a husband, concerning a piece of property, a bride. Women were not legal persons, and could not enter into such a contract in most cases. The fact that the husband has sex with the property exchanged does not change who entered into the contract, two men.

Even societies that either were indifferent to homosexuality or--in the weakest form of approval--looked the other way, never condoned gay marriage.

Nobody wanted "gay marriage" by the old definition, since the bride is property, no such analog was desirable. Marriage has been redefined, very recently, to be a contract between legal persons which confers benefits. The folks who are complaining about "redefinition" have benefited from their redefinition, and now they want to set it in stone, and pretend it has always been that way.

If they could provide any evidence that this redefinition is more socially destructive than the redefinition they have been using, let them state their case. The fact that the creator of the video don't seem to have an argument beyond "redefinition conspiracy", and seems to be completely ignorant of the historical context, does not speak well for the position.

Just because the black people who voted for prop 8 couldn't (or wouldn't) see the unique mirror perspective that particular situation put up, doesn't mean that the mirror wasn't there. The analogy between the persecution that gays have had to live with as well as the racial discrimination is so blindingly obvious, the mere idea anyone couldn't see the similarity is astounding.

Hell, at least Racial discrimination is against the law, there's nothing to protect anyone from sexual discrimination for the most part. Technically speaking, a black man actually has MORE rights than a gay person in this country. The idea that the people voting for Prop 8 were perfectly happy with neo-nazi skinhead aryan brotherhood supporting bigots getting married... but not gays. Surely not.

Any hateful, despicable, murderous, thieving, corruptible, deceitful, lying, scum of the earth poor excuse for a human being... ANY of them can get married assuming they can find a woman/man of the opposite sex who can put up with it. I'd say anyone fitting the above description getting married is a MUCH larger "threat" to marriage than any amount of gay love. No gay marriage wouldn't be perfect either, but at least it would be equal. And for proponents of so called civil unions, I refer you back to Separate But Equal. It was bigotry then, it's bigotry now, just a new name.

well said.

a lot of things aren't what they seem. shit i left the vaporizer on.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Men and women are not interchangeable, there are real differences between the sexes.

There sure are. And that's why I like the noises my girlfriend makes in bed MUCH better than anything that ever came out of my ex-boyfriends.

... pun intended.