I didn't watch the clip, as the movie deserves better. It blows my mind to think this movie is about to turn eleven years old. One of the few truly classic popcorn movies to emerge from the 90s. I rented it last summer and it was great fun to watch in privacy with the subwoofer cranked up. Other classic 90s popcorn flicks: T2, Jurassic Park, Armageddon, The Matrix. Popcorn movies are allowed to be mindless if they deliver an entertaining spectacle. Classic status means it holds up or even improves on repeated viewings over long spans of time. Question: on those merits, would you guys call "Speed" a classic? I bought it recently and it seems like a classic to me.

I would have liked Independence Day to be darker, but it probably wouldn't have made as much money and definitely wouldn't be as much admittedly dumb fun. The design in this movie's great. I'd love to see a sequel.

By the way, I watch lots of "real cinema" too. I loves movies.

Well, while ID4 may not be a deep or complex movie, it's just great to watch for sheer enjoyment, and I think a lot of people (including myself) often forget that movies are made for that purpose. I hardly consider ID4 to be a pinnacle of scifi movies, but darn it's fun to watch!

And yeah, Will Smith having the balls to go and smack the alien pilot around after the dogfight? That definitely earns this clip a place in the collective.

It is exactly what it advertises itself to be...Independence Day! A flag-waving, speech making, trash-talking America squashes the aliens CGI fest. Thanks firefly for spreading the love.

Dear Lord, what a piece of shit this was.
Which pretty much goes for anything Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerichs come up with.

Yep, ID4 was a fun movie to watch.

one of the worst films in existence.. great SFX, but terrible terrible film.. is it just me or is the last battle just a rehash of Star Wars ?

^---actually it's a rehash of one of the levels of N64 Starfox!
and I'm amazed Will didn't break his legs on the parachute landing!

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