If Congress was your co-worker

What if your co-worker acted like congress?
Drachen_Jagersays...

Wow!

I've heard about how uninformed the American electorate is, but... wow.

Experiencing it first-hand is an eye opener. Thank you for that.

If you think there's anything resembling equivalence here, between Dem and GOP blockading, you truly don't know which way is up anymore.

harlequinnsaid:

I think it is missing a "Democrat" before Congress as well.

Because, apart from the obviously targeted at Republican digs, it is behaviour they are all guilty of.

harlequinnsays...

You have confirmation bias. It prevents you from seeing things objectively. This is common in a politically polarised country.

You may also have some omission bias.

Drachen_Jagersaid:

Wow!

I've heard about how uninformed the American electorate is, but... wow.

Experiencing it first-hand is an eye opener. Thank you for that.

If you think there's anything resembling equivalence here, between Dem and GOP blockading, you truly don't know which way is up anymore.

Drachen_Jagersays...

Wow, are you Dr. Oz in real life? That's an amazing diagnosis from just a few words.

Totally wrong, on all counts, but so is Dr. Oz most of the time.

It's not confirmation bias (where did you learn those words anyhow? You're not using them right). The list of obstructionist measures taken by this Republican-led congress far surpasses anything that's come before. That's quantifiable. To pretend otherwise is just delusional.

harlequinnsaid:

You have confirmation bias. It prevents you from seeing things objectively. This is common in a politically polarised country.

You may also have some omission bias.

harlequinnsays...

No, I'm not wrong. Everyone has confirmation bias. Some people control it better than others.

It is as I have written. It doesn't matter where I learned the concept. I'm using the words correctly. Questioning that is a red herring.

I'm not saying Republicans aren't obstructionist. I'm saying that the Democrats are too. That's quantifiable. As is your confirmation bias and omission bias.

You're boring me so it's unlikely I'll engage you further.

Here's some lists for everyone (myself included) to learn a thing or two from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_memory_biases

Drachen_Jagersaid:

Wow, are you Dr. Oz in real life? That's an amazing diagnosis from just a few words.

Totally wrong, on all counts, but so is Dr. Oz most of the time.

It's not confirmation bias (where did you learn those words anyhow? You're not using them right). The list of obstructionist measures taken by this Republican-led congress far surpasses anything that's come before. That's quantifiable. To pretend otherwise is just delusional.

Drachen_Jagersays...

Look, democrats are obstructionist, sure, but what you're saying is that a guy who speeds to get to work is as bad as a drunk driver who speeds through school zones because they're both basically just disobeying traffic laws. There's a world of difference and conflating the two is simply inappropriate.

I notice from your sentence length, grammar, and use of buzz phrases that you don't have an especially good grasp on any of this, so I'll leave it at that. Add in your aversion to actually being forced to think about your positions and I know all I need to about you.

If you'd paid any attention to me, you wouldn't have made any of the obvious factual mistakes you have here, so it's apparent there's no means of getting through to you, except, perhaps, life experience and/or more education than you have at the moment (though I suspect you'd reject that too).

harlequinnsaid:

No, I'm not wrong. Everyone has confirmation bias. Some people control it better than others.

It is as I have written. It doesn't matter where I learned the concept. I'm using the words correctly. Questioning that is a red herring.

I'm not saying Republicans aren't obstructionist. I'm saying that the Democrats are too. That's quantifiable. As is your confirmation bias and omission bias.

You're boring me so it's unlikely I'll engage you further.

Here's some lists for everyone (myself included) to learn a thing or two from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_memory_biases

harlequinnsays...

In order...

You've presented a false analogy and a series of ad hominem attacks.

You don't notice any such thing. You're a terrible liar.

I'm paying attention to your argument and your argument is incorrect.

I'm finishing my second, third and fourth degrees at the moment (it's a combined program). It's in a double major most people find "very hard". The thing is though, this has no bearing on my argument. My argument is correct because its based on a quantifiable fact.

Previously in the thread you've assumed I'm American. I'm not (and I don't assume you are). I'm on the outside looking in. American politics happens to be a hobby of mine.

I implore you to look through those lists.

I expect more of the same from you (false equivalences, ad hominem attacks, politically polarised rhetorical diatribe, etc.) so it's even more unlikely you'll receive any response. Good day to you.

Drachen_Jagersaid:

Look, democrats are obstructionist, sure, but what you're saying is that a guy who speeds to get to work is as bad as a drunk driver who speeds through school zones because they're both basically just disobeying traffic laws. There's a world of difference and conflating the two is simply inappropriate.

I notice from your sentence length, grammar, and use of buzz phrases that you don't have an especially good grasp on any of this, so I'll leave it at that. Add in your aversion to actually being forced to think about your positions and I know all I need to about you.

If you'd paid any attention to me, you wouldn't have made any of the obvious factual mistakes you have here, so it's apparent there's no means of getting through to you, except, perhaps, life experience and/or more education than you have at the moment (though I suspect you'd reject that too).

spawnflaggersays...

I'm voting for every non-incumbent congressional candidate (both Senate and House of Reps)

While I'd like to see a 4th branch of government created (direct democracy), I don't think that'll happen in my lifetime.

I'd love to see term limits for congress though.

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