well the wings on a plane do visually go up when the plane flies unless its a fighter jet.

As for asking questions why would you discourage people asking questions and wanting answers presumably most questions that are not totally absurd can be given reasonable answers.

911 and conspiracies in general are a good way to practice exorcising critical thought intemrs of evaluating what asurtions are valid or crazy (regardless of the ultimate truth) and identifying logical falicies and thinking about the world around you , its also far more entertaining than watching your average Hollywood film .

ether way You don't even need a conspiracy to see that the government is and was massively incompetent , and the forcing us all to go to war on lies should be enough in itself to get people in government jaild for life.



Its also interesting how governments use events like 911 as excuses to pass laws that ultimately cripple a society and are entirely counter productive for the population but beneficial to a small minority ( patriot act) < also interesting that they name the laws and acts something that makes it hard to argue against them without sounding Un amercan>

I always suspected termites.

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>> ^westy:
Its also interesting how governments use events like 911 as excuses to pass laws that ultimately cripple a society and are entirely counter productive for the population but beneficial to a small minority ( patriot act) < also interesting that they name the laws and acts something that makes it hard to argue against them without sounding Un amercan>


Ahem, that should be 'government' at least in the contemporary world. Yeah the Nazis enacted similar things after their 'terrorist' attack, but to say 'governments' in the modern sense as if to blanket everyone with the same duvet is overlooking the obvious case of Norway, where no such extreme measures were taken, and a rational dialogue began immediately with the idea that they would not let the terrorists dictate the rules of the game.

Osama said the attack would cripple the US economy and destroy your freedoms. The American reaction? Spend trillions of dollars to 'feel safer' and restrict its citizen's freedoms. Aside from hunting him down and killing him the US government gave him EVERYTHING he wanted.

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Beautiful logic btw, too bad it won't convince any conspiracy nuts...

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Wait, I should downvote and yet so many upvotes. I'm confused here. Isn't this the wrong kind of logic? The "oh lets just trust our government"-logic?

^You are (perhaps sarcastically) creating a false dichotomy. You are free to distrust both the government and outlandish conspiracy theories at the same time.

bah most governments I cannot help it that Norway are cool

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>> ^westy:
Its also interesting how governments use events like 911 as excuses to pass laws that ultimately cripple a society and are entirely counter productive for the population but beneficial to a small minority ( patriot act) < also interesting that they name the laws and acts something that makes it hard to argue against them without sounding Un amercan>

Ahem, that should be 'government' at least in the contemporary world. Yeah the Nazis enacted similar things after their 'terrorist' attack, but to say 'governments' in the modern sense as if to blanket everyone with the same duvet is overlooking the obvious case of Norway, where no such extreme measures were taken, and a rational dialogue began immediately with the idea that they would not let the terrorists dictate the rules of the game.
Osama said the attack would cripple the US economy and destroy your freedoms. The American reaction? Spend trillions of dollars to 'feel safer' and restrict its citizen's freedoms. Aside from hunting him down and killing him the US government gave him EVERYTHING he wanted.

It doesn't matter how logically you put it, truthers will never believe you. I know one personally and just know now to just not bring it up, he's too far gone.