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siftbotsays...Moving this video to Mordhaus's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.
pumkinandstormsays...*promote
*quality
siftbotsays...Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by pumkinandstorm.
Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued - promote requested by pumkinandstorm.
dystopianfuturetodaysays...I believe the Nazi's were also working on UFO type things and a ridiculously huge tank.
chingalerasays...*engineering dudes getting all teary-eyed with wood at the same time, now that's special-
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Engineering) - requested by chingalera.
chingalerasays...GoddDAMN what a sexy aircraft! Thank the Yanks n Ruskies, or we'd all be speaking that hack und spit language now, and rock and roll would have never transpired. Music would be such utter crap had Hitler had the upper hand.....We missed that shit by a handfull of months.
Sexy frikkin' plane.....
A10anissays...I think you forgot to thank the British.....
GoddDAMN what a sexy aircraft! Thank the Yanks n Ruskies, or we'd all be speaking that hack und spit language now, and rock and roll would have never transpired. Music would be such utter crap had Hitler had the upper hand.....We missed that shit by a handfull of months.
Sexy frikkin' plane.....
Xaielaosays...I don't see how it could possibly fly with any sort of stability? The only reason modern aircraft of that shape fly is because of fly-by-wire, computer systems that adjust the vehicles systems hundreds of times a second. So yes, it certainly is advanced for the time I really doubt it would have seen all that much success. Just one of dozens of scrapped designs the Germans tried to develop.
Asmosays...Funny story, because the German's were restricted from most modern aviation they did a lot of testing with glider craft, including wing type craft with no tail assembly. Horten been working on various designs for years, and the Ho-229 (also known as the Gotha Go-229) was flown successfully. It was relatively stable with two sets of spoilers on each wing which gave it effective rudder control and flat flight stabilisation.
I don't see how it could possibly fly with any sort of stability? The only reason modern aircraft of that shape fly is because of fly-by-wire, computer systems that adjust the vehicles systems hundreds of times a second. So yes, it certainly is advanced for the time I really doubt it would have seen all that much success. Just one of dozens of scrapped designs the Germans tried to develop.
spawnflaggersays...Interesting video.
I'm curious why they used super expensive metallic paint when actual metal would have probably been more accurate (radar wise). Also seems important that the materials used inside the cockpit should be the same, not just the shape. I'm pretty sure the Germans didn't use PVC tubes to build it...
notarobotsays...Heisenberg was indeed working on developing an atomic weapon for the Nazis, but he was still a couple of years behind the efforts at Los Alamos. The American project had better resources and the aid of Neils Bohr, Heisenberg's former mentor and colleague.
aimpointsays...They were on a time/money budget, the method they used for the engine was a lot quicker a cheaper.
Interesting video.
I'm curious why they used super expensive metallic paint when actual metal would have probably been more accurate (radar wise). Also seems important that the materials used inside the cockpit should be the same, not just the shape. I'm pretty sure the Germans didn't use PVC tubes to build it...
aimpointsays...The notion that if it was deployed 3 months earlier it would have changed the outcome of the war is a bit short sighted. By 1944 things had changed significantly against the Luftwaffe. Of the many different types of problems, two are the most straightforward here, shortage of fuel and Goering's obsession with bombers.
At this stage of the war in 1944, fuel was scarce enough to force flight schools to cut their training times to less than half of what they received in 1942, receiving on average 111 hours of flight and of that only 20 hours in the combat aircraft that they were to fly, the rest would be in a trainer. To give a contemporary comparison, in the US you need an absolute bare minimum of 190 hours to earn a commercial pilot's license which is usually done in the same type of trainer the Germans used, THEN you start working on the plane your "really" going to fly. Training deficiencies were already showing in 1943, when during the first half of the year they experienced the same number of losses to accidents as they did to combat. So you can imagine that new and even experienced pilots, transitioning from the relatively lower speed of their prop driven planes to high speed jets, would have problems in tactical use and even accident avoidance. Even the Me-262 suffered from flameouts caused by aggressive use of the throttle, something that prop planes can manage much better, would otherwise cause the flameout that killed the test pilot Ziller.
Even if deployed in large numbers as a fighter-bomber, the probable use would be as a bomber. Goering was very much a part of the "cult of the offensive" in the air that meant holding to the old WW1 notion of "The bomber always gets through". Though to be fair, the technology in this aircraft might very well have helped proved him right, he pushed this notion at the cost of the defense. He refused committing more resources to the fighter wings, so while the Ho-229 might have been considered a "fighter-bomber", its use may have been predominantly focused on the bomber aspect. This is actually exactly what happened to the Me-262 in its earlier days, its capabilities as a fighter were ignored and preference as a bomber, preferred. Why does all this matter? Because at this point, Germany wasn't able to come close to stopping the bombers breaking through their lines. They needed the flow to stop since it was already disrupting their existing production to produce the "what if" fleet of Ho-229s. Goering proved that the bombers were getting through thanks to his belief that his would instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_of_the_Reich
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Galland (The later part, when he commanded the fighter force)
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