"Don't be racist. Don't be homophobic. Don't be sexist. Follow that code and everybody will have a good time. And when someone breaks that code, CALL THEM OUT. Don't just let it ride..."

From http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/stirring-gamer-girl-manifest.html ...
westysays...

LOL MAXIMUM FAIL

MAKING A VIDEO THAT'S AGAINST DISCRIMINATION BUT ONLY HAS WOMEN IN IT IS SELF DEFEATING.

by only having women in the video it communicates that only men have weird attitudes to women gamers and also has the effect of alienating women father and setting it up as a men V women situation , its about as affective as the spice girls shouting "GIRL POWER "

If you want to make a video to counter discrimination then make a choherant argument and explaining why its stupid.

Or simply play games and rightfully call out and draw attention to bullshit when it happens.

Jinxsays...

Pfft, the real problem here is these nerds just simply aren't getting enough sex, and who's fault could that be. Looking at you "the other 51%". I mean honestly, if I got laid more often I'm sure I wouldn't flirt outrageously with every single girl on the interwebs (and hey, sometimes they flirt back :3) with the insane fantasy that maybe, just maybe, we'll fall madly in love and she'll move to my place irl and then we can like, totally hold hands and shit.

I think its that or we should force every female avatar to where the full burqa, you know, so men aren't provoked into lechery.

Ps. my sword aint that long, but its got a very high attack speed. *wink wink*

Gallowflaksays...

This is just... Cringeworthy. And ineffectual. Do they think the people who should change their behaviour are going to watch this? Or even if they do, react in any way other than @Gunter did?

I don't know what the expectation is.

Fletchsays...

Hey, Gamer Girl... shut up and play.

I keed! I keed! Most of the girls I've played with/against are really good, and the guys who waste time hitting on them look desperate and ridiculous.

SDGundamXsays...

@westy

I think having only women in a video explicitly directed at male gamers communicates that only male gamers have weird attitudes towards women gamers. Which, if you've gamed for as long as I think you have, you realize is true--you never come across female gamers asking other female gamers if they're hot or to send pics of themselves.

@Gallowflak

I can't speak for the video's creators, but the message I took away from it is that the behavior continues because the community as a whole allows it to continue and takes a kind of "boys will be boys" attitude towards it all. They're asking the community to think about the issue a bit more and take a stand against it rather than just mute people who are being offensive. I think what they're hoping for is that the community as a whole does a bit of self-reflection.

I do all my online multiplayer on the PC (mostly FPS and RTS) and I got sick of the language and attitudes on the public servers a long time ago (literally years ago). When I play (which is admittedly not often now that I have a family) I usually only play on family-friendly servers that have an admin monitoring 24-7 (homophobic comments, griefing, and other undesirable behavior results in insta-banning). The only people who stick around are mature players just looking to have a good match (and occasionally their kids, who often are just as polite as their parents and often better players than the adults).

One thing I find interesting is that now that I live in Asia and connect to Asian (Japanese, Korean, Hong Kong, etc.) servers, I almost never see any of that undesirable behavior even on the public servers. It seems like the homophobic, misogynistic gamer is a Western cultural product. On the other hand, you will occasionally find racists on the Asian servers trash-talking other Asian groups.

westysays...

>> ^SDGundamX:

@westy
I think having only women in a video explicitly directed at male gamers communicates that only male gamers have weird attitudes towards women gamers. Which, if you've gamed for as long as I think you have, you realize is true--you never come across female gamers asking other female gamers if they're hot or to send pics of themselves.
@Gallowflak
I can't speak for the video's creators, but the message I took away from it is that the behavior continues because the community as a whole allows it to continue and takes a kind of "boys will be boys" attitude towards it all. They're asking the community to think about the issue a bit more and take a stand against it rather than just mute people who are being offensive. I think what they're hoping for is that the community as a whole does a bit of self-reflection.
I do all my online multiplayer on the PC (mostly FPS and RTS) and I got sick of the language and attitudes on the public servers a long time ago (literally years ago). When I play (which is admittedly not often now that I have a family) I usually only play on family-friendly servers that have an admin monitoring 24-7 (homophobic comments, griefing, and other undesirable behavior results in insta-banning). The only people who stick around are mature players just looking to have a good match (and occasionally their kids, who often are just as polite as their parents and often better players than the adults).
One thing I find interesting is that now that I live in Asia and connect to Asian (Japanese, Korean, Hong Kong, etc.) servers, I almost never see any of that undesirable behavior even on the public servers. It seems like the homophobic, misogynistic gamer is a Western cultural product. On the other hand, you will occasionally find racists on the Asian servers trash-talking other Asian groups.


I have had female gamers "hit" on me more than once and the thing is women dont / wont ask for images because often they are less focused on those aspects of attraction , a woman will fancy a guy because of accent , authroity , how friendly they are or some other querke and place more importance on that than raw looks of a guy ( compared to how heavily men way up looks and hence why men want to see an image of a woman) ( in general)

I have played with lots of women and met women on public servers and you get lots of women that game the men and play the men off each other just as much as the men ask for tits or GFO or other stupid shit. you allso get many women that are 100% down to earth easy going and dont hit on people or just converse in a normal way, the same with men.

for example there are just as manny anoying twatty kids/men online as there are nice normal people this video is just stupid and offers nothing to help the issue of discimination which happens to everyone.

I would definitely agree that there is more descrimination against women in general with games becuse its a male dominated thing at this piont in time , but the way for women to deel with it is to tell the men that are bing dicks to fuck off or simply be above it , Its very easy for women to find allies online and alie with non twat men and then game with resnable people.

As for a productive video if a woman made a video that was amusing clever or just showed a compitent woman bieng a woman then that would do far more to counter the discrimination.

Falicea Day comes to mind as a woman that is womany and promotes the image of women gaming in a non retarded and nomal way. But then you have people like Frag Dolls which are the apitomy of retardation.

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