I approve of the use of Florence + The Machine.

Danarys is not supposed to get the unsullied until the third book... -_-

Part of why I've liked the series so far is the fact that they followed the books so closely. I'm gonna be disappointed if they stray from that formula.

they're more than welcome to rewrite most any plot and character developments from the most recent book if this adaptation lasts that long.

>> ^JiggaJonson:

Danarys is not supposed to get the unsullied until the third book... -_-
Part of why I've liked the series so far is the fact that they followed the books so closely. I'm gonna be disappointed if they stray from that formula.


Could it be that they're still following the books exactly but that the seasons aren't going to perfectly line up with them? ie: Maybe Season 2 will contain the second and some of the third book.

>> ^JiggaJonson:

Danarys is not supposed to get the unsullied until the third book... -_-
Part of why I've liked the series so far is the fact that they followed the books so closely. I'm gonna be disappointed if they stray from that formula.


Christ, there's only been one season so far. How could you get used to that aspect so quickly? Especially since it isn't true: toward the end of season 1, they dip into book 2 a little bit (Arya and Gendry joining Yoren for their trip to the wall)...so I'm just gonna call a little bullshit on you. Just a tinsy bit, mind you.

Besides...all the books after book 1 do not have enough going on to warrant their own 10 episode arc. Not like book 1 had. So in short: they are absolutely picking & choosing the best story elements of book 2 and 3 for season 2. Live with it. Or don't.

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I trust the show runners to understand that to have, for example, the red wedding in season 2 would be too early. That's probably a season 3 storyline. But as far as Daenerys goes: what does she actually do for all of book 2? Not that much: she travels the desert, goes to Qarth, and walks through that magic room maze thing. Yaaaawn.

*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*SPOILER ALERT*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*

My big concern is getting HBO to see the series through to the end without canceling it. That's the real cliffhanger.

As an aside: Tyrion is the role Peter Dinklage was fucking born to play!

Wait, are we thinking those shrimpy-looking dudes in breastplates and skirts and no spiked-bronze-caps are The Unsullied? Because if that's the case, I am way more upset than I would be about pacing issues.

>> ^shuac:

>> ^JiggaJonson:
Danarys is not supposed to get the unsullied until the third book... -_-
Part of why I've liked the series so far is the fact that they followed the books so closely. I'm gonna be disappointed if they stray from that formula.

Christ, there's only been one season so far. How could you get used to that aspect so quickly? Especially since it isn't true: toward the end of season 1, they dip into book 2 a little bit (Arya and Gendry joining Yoren for their trip to the wall)...so I'm just gonna call a little bullshit on you. Just a tinsy bit, mind you.
Besides...all the books after book 1 do not have enough going on to warrant their own 10 episode arc. Not like book 1 had. So in short: they are absolutely picking & choosing the best story elements of book 2 and 3 for season 2. Live with it. Or don't.
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ SPOILER ALERT @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
I trust the show runners to understand that to have, for example, the red wedding in season 2 would be too early. That's probably a season 3 storyline. But as far as Daenerys goes: what does she actually do for all of book 2? Not that much: she travels the desert, goes to Qarth, and walks through that magic room maze thing. Yaaaawn.
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ SPOILER ALERT @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
My big concern is getting HBO to see the series through to the end without canceling it. That's the real cliffhanger.

I'm sorry, bullshit on what, exactly? That they didn't stick to the story line of the book in the first season?


The only glaring example of that, I can think of in the first season, is when Caitlyn visits Jamie Lanister at the camp and gets him to admit pushing Brann out of the window. That and I guess the part you mentioned. But, to be fair, Arya's last chapter in Game of Thrones ends with him cutting off her hair and telling her to go with him; the show shows her being called to the cart right after that happened. That insignificant difference is far cry from introducing an entirely new set of characters/plot element from a different book a whole season too soon.

Find me more glaring examples of not closely following the plot and we'll have something to discuss, until then...

*throws bullshit back @shuac*

@shuac , here's an article that details all of the differences: http://tv.ign.com/articles/117/1177070p1.html

Several I had forgotten about because it's been a while since. Regardless, these being the only glaring differences, they have thus far stayed pretty faithful to the material.

I'm 'bout halfway through Dance o Dragons and considering the scope/vastness of the Books, I'm surprised you guys can tie any of plot lines to their respective novels.

There's WAAAY too much going on all at once for me to keep track..

edit: I actually sat down and watched an episode of season 1 the other day, all I kept thinking was..

"OH MY GOD! SO MUCH HAPPENS!!"

Are you forgetting that GRRM himself said the books are not in chronological order, and that events written as if separate (and indeed in separate books) are often happening simultaneously? It's a side effect of following five thousands characters that don't share each and every scene with one another.

>> ^PHJF:

Are you forgetting that GRRM himself said the books are not in chronological order, and that events written as if separate (and indeed in separate books) are often happening simultaneously? It's a side effect of following five thousands characters that don't share each and every scene with one another.


That's true, but it doesn't really start happening until after the second book and becomes full-blown in the fourth and fifth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCVHpnixj88

MORE SPOILERS

As I think more about it, the Red Wedding probably is in season 2, episode 6 or 7 I'd say. That gives them enough time for Theon to do his thing. The choking death could also happen at the very end of season 2: the lions have to begin paying or viewers will get frustrated (just like we readers). There's a bigger cost to frustrating an HBO subscriber than there is a reader. The reader has paid his money already. The subscriber can leave. Scoff at that notion if you like but ask yourself this: why do you think they're compressing the books' storylines for the TV show in the first place? The trial (for the choking) and the other big death by crossbow will most definitely be in season 3.

Those are my guesses.

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I don't know how much good it will do them to condense the *books into less seasons, because god only knows how long it's going to be before The Winds of Winter is released.

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>> ^JiggaJonson:

>> ^shuac:
>> ^JiggaJonson:
Danarys is not supposed to get the unsullied until the third book... -_-
Part of why I've liked the series so far is the fact that they followed the books so closely. I'm gonna be disappointed if they stray from that formula.

Christ, there's only been one season so far. How could you get used to that aspect so quickly? Especially since it isn't true: toward the end of season 1, they dip into book 2 a little bit (Arya and Gendry joining Yoren for their trip to the wall)...so I'm just gonna call a little bullshit on you. Just a tinsy bit, mind you.
Besides...all the books after book 1 do not have enough going on to warrant their own 10 episode arc. Not like book 1 had. So in short: they are absolutely picking & choosing the best story elements of book 2 and 3 for season 2. Live with it. Or don't.
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ SPOILER ALERT @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
I trust the show runners to understand that to have, for example, the red wedding in season 2 would be too early. That's probably a season 3 storyline. But as far as Daenerys goes: what does she actually do for all of book 2? Not that much: she travels the desert, goes to Qarth, and walks through that magic room maze thing. Yaaaawn.
@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ SPOILER ALERT @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
My big concern is getting HBO to see the series through to the end without canceling it. That's the real cliffhanger.

I'm sorry, bullshit on what, exactly? That they didn't stick to the story line of the book in the first season?

The only glaring example of that, I can think of in the first season, is when Caitlyn visits Jamie Lanister at the camp and gets him to admit pushing Brann out of the window. That and I guess the part you mentioned. But, to be fair, Arya's last chapter in Game of Thrones ends with him cutting off her hair and telling her to go with him; the show shows her being called to the cart right after that happened. That insignificant difference is far cry from introducing an entirely new set of characters/plot element from a different book a whole season too soon.
Find me more glaring examples of not closely following the plot and we'll have something to discuss, until then...
throws bullshit back @shuac


They are doing their best to keep each season within the book it's supposed to parallel but the big issue is the the books get bigger. A Clash of Kings is longer than A Game of Thrones by a bit and A Storm of Swords is substantially longer than both of those. *Spoiler Alert* To be able to fit the red wedding into the end of season 3 they are going to need to get started with a bit of book 3 at the end of the 2nd season. These guys have done a fantastic job of adapting season one so I've still got very high hopes for future seasons.