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14 Comments
SagemindSo write them up on Treason.....(!?)
SagemindA violation of the 1799 Logan Act, which says starkly:
“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
But hold on. .....
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/47-gop-senators-broke-law-iran-letter/story?id=29528727
newtboySure sounds like it fits the Logan Act to a T to me. Just because others did it and weren't charged in the past doesn't invalidate the clearly broken law.
Can anyone charge them with treason, or does it have to come from the DOJ, because I'm ready! Imagine, 3 years with standing, but absent republicans "in charge" of congress (but no longer having a majority vote)! Hilarious!
I love it that, in their 'open letter', they completely misrepresent the facts, congress doesn't ratify treaties as they claimed, nor does it take 2/3 vote to concede and let the president ratify them, and he doesn't need their concession anyway. D'oh! Another republican mega-fail. I hope they go down hard this time.
A violation of the 1799 Logan Act, which says starkly:
“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
But hold on. .....
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/47-gop-senators-broke-law-iran-letter/story?id=29528727
billpayerTYT - Senators Face Backlash Over Letter To Iran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRGjv8jdm5E
newtboyNot working for me.
TYT - Senators Face Backlash Over Letter To Iran
newtboyYES!!! Who do I call? How does one pressure the DOJ to do their job and enforce the laws that govern our government?
So write them up on Treason.....(!?)
lantern53says...Our gov't is above the law, doncha know? Obama taught me that.
'without authority of the United States'...who the fuck do you think the authority of the US is? It's Senators and Representatives, you twits!
billpayerAdded a link for you.
Here too, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRGjv8jdm5E
Not working for me.
billpayerTraitor Senator Taking Money from Defense Industry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgQBKXgJbhg
billpayer"the Senate’s own web page makes clear: “The Senate does not ratify treaties. Instead, the Senate takes up a resolution of ratification, by which the Senate formally gives its advice and consent, empowering the president to proceed with ratification”
Our gov't is above the law, doncha know? Obama taught me that.
'without authority of the United States'...who the fuck do you think the authority of the US is? It's Senators and Representatives, you twits!
newtboyAccording to tonight's news, over 170000 people have petitioned the white house to enforce the Logan Act and prosecute all 47. by White House rules, they must now respond in some way.
A violation of the 1799 Logan Act, which says starkly:
“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
But hold on. .....
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/47-gop-senators-broke-law-iran-letter/story?id=29528727
lantern53says...I guess they'd have to prosecute John Kerry because he did the same damn thing when Reagan was president when he went down to Nicaragua to work a deal with Daniel Ortega.
speechlesssays...Unfortunately in this case, it does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desuetude
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/desuetude
Zero prosecutions in 216 years and only one indictment (212 years ago) throws the Logan Act into desuetude.
<snip>"Just because others did it and weren't charged in the past doesn't invalidate the clearly broken law..."
newtboyThere's got to be something in the Patriot Act that covers this kind of thing.
Unfortunately in this case, it does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desuetude
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/desuetude
Zero prosecutions in 216 years and only one indictment (212 years ago) throws the Logan Act into desuetude.
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