Very similar to Plato's "Allegory of the cave"

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato's_allegory_of_the_cave"

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This is a clip of 'What The Beep Do We Know?' - an excellent pop-science film full of animation/FX & weird theories/experiments. I was going to post it, but it had been pulled from Google since watching it; so submitted 'What We Still Don't Know: Are We Real?' instead.

'What We Still Don't Know' was an amazing 3 Part BBC series, I just recently attained it from some other sources after you posted it up here.

'What The Bleep Do We Know' - Is also interesting if alittle far fetched in some... many places...

Cool. Reminded me of Disney's Amazing Mr. Hemoglobin.

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Check the related videos for the quantum physics one, which did very, very well here.

The quantum physics one is still my favorite sift.
Dag, I noticed "favorite sift" isn't displayed in my profile anymore (or anyone else's). Is that because we now have the "my favorites" link?

This vid is taken almost directly from Edwin Abbott's flatland.

Gotta love these quantum vids - the double slit experiment one is a great illustration.

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Bah, I hate this. This movie takes some common thought experiments and twists them around so as to justify some quack New Age nonsense. The talk of dimensions here has absolutely nothing to do with quantum mechanics. During the whole movie they give well-known physical concepts new meaning, so that they retroactively justify their unsound theories. Beneath this clip is the unspoken promise that you can be so much more than you are today, if you only buy into the crap of the movie producers and let them help you on the way in the same manner Dr. Quantum helped Ms. Flat there.

The other clip on here from the same movie is worth a watch, though. In spite of the movie's flaws, that clip actually gives a good explanation of the double slit experiment. But the conclusions they draw from it are horrendous.

^What Ornthoron said... the discussion in the comments of double slit clip is also very interesting, and kinda makes me want to see it, despite everything. Paraphrasing Dag: "You can appreciate Passion of the Christ too, despite the agenda."

Oh dude... you're so completely missing the point, ornthoron. It's so completely basic that you've overstepped it in your intelligence.

They're not trying to trick you! They're trying to challenge people to think more, to learn more and to try harder and reach for the stars. Inflame a childlike fiery burn for knowledge and understanding, and trying to hint that while we may think we know so much, there could be so much more that we don't know, and that may or may not be better and more fulfilling than what we know now.

They are giving it new meaning and trying to promise that we can be so much more, because that's the driving force that makes people try to reach further than they know they can.. and while they might even grasp something short of what they wanted, it was further than we were to begin with.

God man, this is the sort of thing that inspired me when i was younger, it skews your viewpoint and then, in majestic and mysterious ways, it says..... LOOK what we could discover, look what thinking and learning and discovering can do for us. This and shows like it is what drove my interest (and still drives it, in a way). My dad probably looked at videos i used to watch like this and saw that it was common knowledge, it wasn't necessarily as gargantuan an idea to him as it was to me, and it wasn't always necessarily exact in the strictest sense, but he knew to encourage me and when i looked at him and asked him (an astrophysics teacher) "is that true? is it really that amazing?" he'd say "yep, and even more than that... look at this.." and tell me something else that may not have been exact, but drove me onwards and inflamed my desire to know more, to know everything.

And he knew that one day i'd come back to him and say, "You were wrong! It doesn't work the way you told me, I LOOKED IT UP AND FOUND OUT FOR MYSELF!" And what better prize is there than that? And i'd go on to discuss other related things with him, which may or may not have been 100% exact as well

It's so sad to me that you didn't see that in this video. I think it shows the effect that cynicism and time can have on a person.

Also:

This video is inspiring, and i want hours of this kind of thing in place of hours of big brother, pop idol, i'm a celebrity, celebrity fit club, celebrity cattle ranch, celebrity FUCKING DIRTY FILTHY LEECHES OF HUMANITY. Would that not lead to a better world?

>> ^dannym3141:
Oh dude... you're so completely missing the point, ornthoron. It's so completely basic that you've overstepped it in your intelligence.
They're not trying to trick you!

Have I missed the point? I have actually watched the whole movie that this clip is taken from, and believe me: The point is quite hard to miss. And that point is a completely unfounded idea that you are able to influence your surroundings drastically with mere thoughts, supposedly due to quantum mechanics. And no, they are not trying to trick me, as they probably believe in that nonsense themselves. But they certainly tricked one participant in the film, in that they edited together parts of his interview so that they misrepresented his views.


I think it shows the effect that cynicism and time can have on a person.

That's quite a jugdement to pass on me based only on one short comment. Those who know me will attest to my sincere amazement and love of all the wonders of nature, and will likely not recognize your characterization of me as a cynic. But I am a realist, in that I prefer to be amazed by real phenomena, and not some weird stuff that has been dreamed up by some self-appointed medium, no matter how tantalizing it may seem.

Don't get me wrong: I understand where you're coming from, as I too was once that little boy you describe so nicely in your little story. And I am him to some degree still today, constantly amazed by the new things I discover every day. And that is exactly why I hate this movie, since it wanders off into a pseudo-scientific swamp instead of showing people the wonders of REAL science.

I'll concede that I may have been a little harsh on this one clip in isolation, as it taken by itself doesn't overtly exhibit the New Age mindset that permeates the rest of the film. But if you read between the lines you can clearly see the message of humans possibly transcending into a higher state of conciousness. And that there is no justification for in quantum mechanics.


>> ^dannym3141:
This video is inspiring, and i want hours of this kind of thing in place of hours of big brother, pop idol, i'm a celebrity, celebrity fit club, celebrity cattle ranch, celebrity FUCKING DIRTY FILTHY LEECHES OF HUMANITY.

Me too. But is it too much to ask that those hours are filled with stuff from reality? There is so much fantastic stuff to choose from that you can fill hours of it without including quasi-philosophical mumbo-jumbo. I speak from the bottom of my heart: Let all the small children be challenged, puzzled, amazed, wondering, talking and asking about all the weird things in the world. But please don't send them hidden messages as well.

^Ornthoron

Seconded, but I truly find this video very creepy, in particular the way he acts like a god and seems to enjoy it immensely and what that says about the makers of this film, and the sexual undertones as he tickles the circle.

Uh... *Science?

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Not science at all.
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*cult it disturbs me how this applies as a parallel to people talking to "god" and having to become it, to know it. ugh.

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haha i remember voting for this thing. Didn't know better back then.

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