Chopra speaks concisely on how
dualism limits our ability to understand the world around us. (
source)
Albert Einstein had similar ideas:
"A human being is a part of the whole, called by us, "Universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of
nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the striving for such achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."
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Also, very interesting post.
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8727says...this guy is full of crap. there's no evidence for anything he says.
please watch this short clip if you think this guy is worth listening to - http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/08/enemies_of_reas_2.html
swedishfriendsays...I wish people would realize the absolute truth of conectedness. Reality can not have parts or "steps" or particles. If that was the case there would not be motion. Only a reality made up of waves can be the true ultimate reality because at some poit you have to consider that which has always been and always will be. Anything less than that has to start and come from somewhere.
Steps or particles or matter means that you have friction and an eventual stop. Only waves / curves can exist forever.
Even if we are living in the Matrix or in a dream, ultimate reality is still wave based.
Waves don't end. They may get weaker or interfered with but they will reach the edge of the universe in some scale. Everything affects everything else to some degree. Waves mean infinite smoothness and infinite divisibility. No matter how weak a wave gets it will never stop completely. When I type this on my keyboard I move waves of energy around and the ripples of my motion will have at least a tiny effect on galaxies far away accross the universe at some future time.
-Karl
jwraysays...Nevertheless, cartesian dualism is universally rejected among eminent scientists. The mind/spirit/brain are all the same thing.
MINKsays...>> ^Johnald_Chaffinch:
this guy is full of crap. there's no evidence for anything he says.
please watch this short clip if you think this guy is worth listening to - http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/08/enemies_of_reas_2.html
wtf? "there's no evidence" lol.
he said trees make oxygen. no evidence for that?
commenters on that clip you linked to seemed to be saying the video was edited to make chopra look bad. how scientific is that? lol.
his main point is that if we see the world as discrete units, we end up wasting a lot of time trying to figure out where the boundaries are. I agree with that.
Irishmansays...I am a huge fan of Deepak Chopra's work, he is an eschatologist, a philosopher and a teacher. You can find some podcasts of lectures by the man here:
http://www.matrixmasters.com/podcasts/
Fadesays...Deepak is a fraud. He's just a new age hippy with a laymans grasp of quantum mechanics and genetics and as such tends to spout a load of spiritualist vomit. He is the equivelant of an astrologer. Not worthy of the paper he spreads his turds on.
fissionchipssays...>> ^Fade:
Deepak is a fraud. He's just a new age hippy with a laymans grasp of quantum mechanics and genetics and as such tends to spout a load of spiritualist vomit. He is the equivelant of an astrologer. Not worthy of the paper he spreads his turds on.
While I agree with some of those facts, I reach entirely different conclusions. Chopra is both a philosopher and a spiritual leader. His expertise is not in the natural sciences, nor have I heard him claim it to be.
I chose this clip for the specific reason that he doesn't invoke pseudoscience to explain the mind-body problem, arguably the most fundamental problem in philosophy. In other cases, yes, I agree that he has adopted the language of science without an accompanied understanding of the concepts behind the words.
Tofumarsays..."Nevertheless, cartesian dualism is universally rejected among eminent scientists. The mind/spirit/brain are all the same thing."
For what it's worth, Cartesian dualism is almost universally rejected by academic philosophers, too.
9444says...Personally, he ain't my favorite cup of guru tea, but I gots to say, without a doubt, This IS the Unified Field. Even your distaste, your laudable or despicable commentary, all of it, IS the Unified Field.
Seperation is a miraculous illusion.
8727says...we exist in a place with physical 'rules' that can not be broken. so despite theories of universal one-ness - everything that has any relation to our existence in this reality is completely within the realms of 'the real laws of physics', not the kind of thing that this nutjob goes on about.
Fadesays...I think Richard Dawkins even dislikes this guy. He has a bit about him in his enemies of reason docu.
8727says...>> ^MINK:
>> wtf? "there's no evidence" lol. he said trees make oxygen. no evidence for that?
he said "if you didn't breathe the tree wouldn't breathe". my point was he just comes out with rubbish.
>> ^MINK:
>> commenters on that clip you linked to seemed to be saying the video was edited to make chopra look bad...
if it is edited it's to point out the rubbish he's coming out with. if it was based on facts you couldn't make him look bad...
he probably has good intentions (albeit involving money-making), but i'm just saying don't listen to him because the vast majority of what he says isn't true.
ShakaUVMsays...Descartes asked, "What is the extension of a thought?" (I.e., what is the size of a thought?) I think scientists made a rather stupid mistake by mistaking dualism for saying that there is no connection between the mind and brain... on the contrary, the analogy is better like the information carried by an electron in an ethernet cable -- there's certainly a correlation, but the nature of information and the nature of an electron are two totally different things.
That said, Deepak is just repackaging Hinduism for a New Age crowd -- we're all Brahman, etc. etc.
8727says...Descartes said that thought was independent from the physical brain. he was incorrect.
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