The part where the leopard gets tired of his abuser and jumps through his cage, and then jumps through the car window to tear at his abuser, priceless. There are somethings money can't buy, but that's okay because you just need a leopard boss.

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

The part where the leopard gets tired of his abuser and jumps through his cage, and then jumps through the car window to tear at his abuser, priceless. There are somethings money can't buy, but that's okay because you just need a leopard boss.


Assholes who hunt for fun or luxury / abuse animals deserve to be treated in an equal manner.

While I never really like to see people get hurt, the ones where abused animals turn on their captors are indeed strangely gratifying.

Nature can be awesome. Truly inspiring and incredible. The last sequence with the Buffalo calf being attacked by lions and then a crocodile and then being saved, that's awesome nature. Why the images of people being very badly injured/killed by animals? That's not nature. I don't believe that none of the victims died, this isn't a news story and I'm pretty sure that makes this snuff.

Nature can be horrendous as well as beautiful. I've watched lions in Kenya catch and kill a Zebra and it really was a horrible thing to see and hear. It took a long time to die. What you normally see on TV is the edited down version. Death is a part of nature, a part of life. The lioness had cubs and they would survive thanks to her killing ability. It wasn't just mindless violence.

I don't like to see snuff on the sift, but particularly when it's presented as being a demonstration of how awesome nature is. This is an unpleasant video and about as far from being awesome as it's possible to be. If a bullied animal gets it's own back on the person bullying it, nothing good has happened. The animals 'getting revenge' in this video will have been killed for what they did. Awesome would have been seeing these animals being rescued from their positions and looked after properly before things got that bad. This is just sad.

>> ^robbersdog49:

Nature can be awesome. Truly inspiring and incredible. The last sequence with the Buffalo calf being attacked by lions and then a crocodile and then being saved, that's awesome nature. Why the images of people being very badly injured/killed by animals? That's not nature. I don't believe that none of the victims died, this isn't a news story and I'm pretty sure that makes this snuff.
Nature can be horrendous as well as beautiful. I've watched lions in Kenya catch and kill a Zebra and it really was a horrible thing to see and hear. It took a long time to die. What you normally see on TV is the edited down version. Death is a part of nature, a part of life. The lioness had cubs and they would survive thanks to her killing ability. It wasn't just mindless violence.
I don't like to see snuff on the sift, but particularly when it's presented as being a demonstration of how awesome nature is. This is an unpleasant video and about as far from being awesome as it's possible to be. If a bullied animal gets it's own back on the person bullying it, nothing good has happened. The animals 'getting revenge' in this video will have been killed for what they did. Awesome would have been seeing these animals being rescued from their positions and looked after properly before things got that bad. This is just sad.

I have to disagree on "nothing good has happened".
IMHO if the abusers died for what they did to the animals, the world is a little bit better.
And to take the edge out of the snuff-judgement:
a) the bungee jumper was fake
b) the dude arm wrestling the crocodile, alive and had it coming
c) the fucktard participating in the toro-chase in spain? Educational I hope.
d) the poacher for torturing the cat? Educational too.

Disturbing yes. Snuff no! Because there is a valueable lesson attached.

While I agree this definitely is not snuff, and so do 13 others, including myself again, should we not take all valid-ish concerns and discuss them? That's just because I am very rules-centered. (I hate guidelines, but not rules, funny huh?) And hurricanes are not "newsworthy" because they happen everyday somewhere @robbersdog49 but it is educational and this particular video is both morality based and educational.

Respect nature, or else.

>> ^robbersdog49:

Nature can be awesome. Truly inspiring and incredible. The last sequence with the Buffalo calf being attacked by lions and then a crocodile and then being saved, that's awesome nature. Why the images of people being very badly injured/killed by animals? That's not nature. I don't believe that none of the victims died, this isn't a news story and I'm pretty sure that makes this snuff.
Nature can be horrendous as well as beautiful. I've watched lions in Kenya catch and kill a Zebra and it really was a horrible thing to see and hear. It took a long time to die. What you normally see on TV is the edited down version. Death is a part of nature, a part of life. The lioness had cubs and they would survive thanks to her killing ability. It wasn't just mindless violence.
I don't like to see snuff on the sift, but particularly when it's presented as being a demonstration of how awesome nature is. This is an unpleasant video and about as far from being awesome as it's possible to be. If a bullied animal gets it's own back on the person bullying it, nothing good has happened. The animals 'getting revenge' in this video will have been killed for what they did. Awesome would have been seeing these animals being rescued from their positions and looked after properly before things got that bad. This is just sad.


>> ^luxury_pie:

>> ^robbersdog49:
Nature can be awesome. Truly inspiring and incredible. The last sequence with the Buffalo calf being attacked by lions and then a crocodile and then being saved, that's awesome nature. Why the images of people being very badly injured/killed by animals? That's not nature. I don't believe that none of the victims died, this isn't a news story and I'm pretty sure that makes this snuff.
Nature can be horrendous as well as beautiful. I've watched lions in Kenya catch and kill a Zebra and it really was a horrible thing to see and hear. It took a long time to die. What you normally see on TV is the edited down version. Death is a part of nature, a part of life. The lioness had cubs and they would survive thanks to her killing ability. It wasn't just mindless violence.
I don't like to see snuff on the sift, but particularly when it's presented as being a demonstration of how awesome nature is. This is an unpleasant video and about as far from being awesome as it's possible to be. If a bullied animal gets it's own back on the person bullying it, nothing good has happened. The animals 'getting revenge' in this video will have been killed for what they did. Awesome would have been seeing these animals being rescued from their positions and looked after properly before things got that bad. This is just sad.

I have to disagree on "nothing good has happened".
IMHO if the abusers died for what they did to the animals, the world is a little bit better.
And to take the edge out of the snuff-judgement:
a) the bungee jumper was fake
b) the dude arm wrestling the crocodile, alive and had it coming
c) the fucktard participating in the toro-chase in spain? Educational I hope.
d) the poacher for torturing the cat? Educational too.
Disturbing yes. Snuff no! Because there is a valueable lesson attached.

Disturbing yes. Snuff no! Because there is a valueable lesson attached.


The guy being gored by the elephant?

The guy being attacked and gored by the bull?

I don't think those people survived. Video sift has strict rules on what is and isn't snuff. This doesn't fit with those rules. You lot are obviously a lot more blood thirsty than I am, and see that as awesome, so be it. Good luck with that.

>> ^luxury_pie:

>> ^robbersdog49:
Nature can be awesome. Truly inspiring and incredible. The last sequence with the Buffalo calf being attacked by lions and then a crocodile and then being saved, that's awesome nature. Why the images of people being very badly injured/killed by animals? That's not nature. I don't believe that none of the victims died, this isn't a news story and I'm pretty sure that makes this snuff.
Nature can be horrendous as well as beautiful. I've watched lions in Kenya catch and kill a Zebra and it really was a horrible thing to see and hear. It took a long time to die. What you normally see on TV is the edited down version. Death is a part of nature, a part of life. The lioness had cubs and they would survive thanks to her killing ability. It wasn't just mindless violence.
I don't like to see snuff on the sift, but particularly when it's presented as being a demonstration of how awesome nature is. This is an unpleasant video and about as far from being awesome as it's possible to be. If a bullied animal gets it's own back on the person bullying it, nothing good has happened. The animals 'getting revenge' in this video will have been killed for what they did. Awesome would have been seeing these animals being rescued from their positions and looked after properly before things got that bad. This is just sad.

I have to disagree on "nothing good has happened".
IMHO if the abusers died for what they did to the animals, the world is a little bit better.
And to take the edge out of the snuff-judgement:
a) the bungee jumper was fake
b) the dude arm wrestling the crocodile, alive and had it coming
c) the fucktard participating in the toro-chase in spain? Educational I hope.
d) the poacher for torturing the cat? Educational too.
Disturbing yes. Snuff no! Because there is a valueable lesson attached.

^ oh don't get me wrong. and more importantly don't get me confused with some blood-thirsty moron.
let's *discuss this shall we?

I can see your point on the man being attacked by that elephant, it is not clear what the situation is, but it is also not clear what has happened to him in the end.
But on the other hand, it is pretty bad quality and I don't see any blood or body parts.
There I would find the arm being ripped of much more disturbing.

Nonetheless in general this video's message is not: "Look at these stupid humans dying in pain and laugh at them"
It is: "Nature is awesome, don't mess with that shit."
And most of the video's are indeed not any way near snuff.

FAQ-Quote:
"The presence of human fatality is acceptable and not considered "snuff" if presented as a limited portion of a lengthy educational, informative news report or documentary. Our definition of "snuff" does include but is not exclusive to any short clip in which a human fatality occurs whether or not any victims are actually visible on camera."

This video is being sent to Sift Talk for discussion - discuss requested by luxury_pie.

Not to mention that people--even after seeing these videos--still take nature for a joke. How? I don't get it. I see this and it is obvious that my place in the world is small and I shall take care of myself. I see this and I watch my children a bit more responsibly. Period.

They made a friend's class watch American History X in his highschool. Awesome video to point out hypocrisy but very violent for teens. This? This should be required too.

Hows the discussion going ?

Pretty sure the guy that was thrown around by the elephant was pretty dead..

Scariest for me, was the guy that lost an arm to the croc. Yuck. When it starts spinning, my arm starts to hurt.

>> ^BoneRemake:
Hows the discussion going ?


I have no idea? How is this supposed to be going?

I guess it breaks down into two points. We who say that nature is a process of learning in and of itself (Which, like math, Americans never seem to pay much attention to.) Then you have a select minority (So far just 1, actually, and maybe @gwiz, but I am not sure since his comment only mentioned someone was dead--and that in and of itself is not snuff,) who gives it a thumbs down...

Sooooo, in the name of wanting my video back (Or judged) how does this sifty thing worky?

With a fitting warning, I think this could stay. Some of these people have been horribly maimed and possibly killed though, and I'd see this video as a warning against being stupid in nature, more than entertainment.

>> ^gwiz665:
With a fitting warning, I think this could stay. Some of these people have been horribly maimed and possibly killed though, and I'd see this video as a warning against being stupid in nature, more than entertainment.


NSFW added, and title changed to include "The content amazing but I warn you--it is very graphic. Nature kills, maims and harms, whether animals or people. Some actually die in this video so beware.

Alright, that's good enough for me. *return

Returning this video from Sift Talk - return requested by gwiz665.

@luxury_pie The fucktard in the toro chase was actually a protester who got caught up trying to get people out of the way. She survived another 10 years but was paralyzed by the incident.

Not having a go at you, just letting you know the background story.

http://www.vickimoorefoundation.org/content/vicki.php

>> ^Kofi:

@luxury_pie The fucktard in the toro chase was actually a protester who got caught up trying to get people out of the way. She survived another 10 years but was paralyzed by the incident.
Not having a go at you, just letting you know the background story.


Wow. Thanks for sharing this piece of information. Way to go misjudging a situation due to lack of context.

*snuff

*discard

See: http://videosift.com/video/Homeless-Hero-Sacrifies#comment-1907231

Discarding this post - discard requested by member lucky760.