Cop kicks handcuffed woman in the head

She did assault him first, after all. Barefooted, she had the audacity to kick him.... I loved the prosecutor/plaintiff's follow up question as to what he did next.
GeeSussFreeKsays...

Usually on the side of victims for things like this, but she kicked him...he kicked back, game over. Excessive, perhaps, unprovoked, no. You don't kick police, unless you want to eat pavement...which she did. Don't want to get kicked in the face, then don't play the physical card game with a man twice your size with boots while your in handcuffs on the ground, it doesn't end well for you.

bareboards2says...

Isn't "excessive" what we are pointing out here?

She was drunk off her ass, seated on the ground, handcuffed, barefoot.

He kicked her in the head when he could have taken a step back and solved the problem. And as the prosecutor pointed out, if he was concerned for his safety, why didn't they put her in leg manacles?

Excessive. Period.

{I'm not turning into blankfist, I swear.....]


>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Usually on the side of victims for things like this, but she kicked him...he kicked back, game over. Excessive, perhaps, unprovoked, no. You don't kick police, unless you want to eat pavement...which she did. Don't want to get kicked in the face, then don't play the physical card game with a man twice your size with boots while your in handcuffs on the ground, it doesn't end well for you.

GeeSussFreeKsays...

@bareboards2

Ya, I am not arguing that it wasn't, perhaps, excessive. I was arguing that even if excessive, it was still provoked. And I don't think putting drunks in leg shackles is very reasonable. I have been arrested for not paying a ticket, to be placed in leg shackles over it would be insane beyond insanity (not calling you insane, just that precedent, I already think handcuffs for everyone is pretty crazy). I am suggesting that when you play by the rules of brutality, brutality happens. Drunk isn't a real excuse to hit people driving, nor to kick police. Perhaps a kick to the brain isn't exactly what the situation called for, but it wasn't completely unwarranted either.

bareboards2says...

@GeeSussFreeK

I guess what I am arguing with you about is.... most of the time, police are in a situation where they are "provoked." That happens every single day.

The issue is -- what do they do when they are provoked?

To point out that the kick was "provoked" misses the point, to say it again. The point is -- was his response to the situation excessive? That is why he is on trial. That is why I posted this vid.

I have nothing but admiration and respect for law officers who go out every day, putting their lives on the line for the public safety, while essentially wearing a target on their back. I can't imagine what it must be like to know that if you pull someone over for speeding, you might be dead in the next five minutes. I can't imagine what it is like to be a family member of a police officer, never knowing if this might be the day your loved one is killed or maimed in the line of duty.

A handcuffed, drunk, barefoot, seated woman kicked out at a police officer and he kicked her in the head. He did not take steps to protect himself from her "attacking" him again, if he truly was in fear for his safety.

Every police officer is provoked every single day. How you handle that provocation determines whether or not you end up in court being prosecuted for excessive force.

chilaxesays...

Ha. If their ethnicities were different, people would be telling grand narratives.

Anyway, I assume she has a neocortex that can approximate human-level intelligence, so she should be capable of acting like a big girl and stop parasiting us.

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